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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: hobby electronics Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 11:32:40 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <v6en0a$elic$1@dont-email.me> References: <j5a88jhm7pge920n2io4jnhs101i8ntb2g@4ax.com> <v635o1$24goj$1@dont-email.me> <v6cicb$2p71$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v6edtl$cvkh$1@dont-email.me> <v6ek4t$2cll$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 20:32:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f9971c8e980327526a20b7a4d42fe357"; logging-data="480844"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18aUuCXZR6LBaC9qNhwasjb" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:N8vyI7Ue2dcVn0AJL80c6mNXUPY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v6ek4t$2cll$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> Bytes: 2242 On 7/7/2024 10:43 AM, Edward Rawde wrote: > When I worked as a designer I came across fake parts a few times. One reel > if devices was SO8 and the devices were marked with the correct number but > the manufacturer didn't make that part in SO8. So it wasn't hard to spot the > fake. Another reel of devices did have the correct part number on the > correct package but it was anybody's guess what chip was actually in the > package. I had a client contact me about a problem he was having with some other design (not one of mine). Begrudgingly, I offered to help (I don't like having to troubleshoot other designs as you never know the quality of the design/designer). It quickly became apparent that one device was bad in every sample. On closer inspection, there was no die *in* the package! ["Talk to your purchasing guy about where he 'found' these. And, make sure he never 'finds' anything else, there!"]