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On 7/7/2024 9:55 AM, Aidan Kehoe wrote:
> 
>   Ar an seachtú lá de mí Iúil, scríobh Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> 
>   > [...] In the case of Hebrew I was inclined to believe [PTD]. Possibly
>   > unwise, as our world expert on writing had apparently forgotten that
>   > Armenian doesn't use the Roman alphabet. He attacked me once for writing a
>   > name with -ian at the end, whereas he wanted -yan (or vice versa, I don't
>   > remember), apparently unaware that -ian and -yan are written in exactly the
>   > same way in Armenian. Consider Միկոյան (Mikoyan) and Խաչատրյան
>   > (Khatchaturian).


PTD knew close to nothing about (spoken or written) Chinese, and 
yet.........

                    He did know a few esoteric factoids.
                           (e.g.,  about the 2 chars for Butterfly)


> 
> Slightly relatedly, the Iranian president-president-elect Pezeshkian, پزشکیان،
> has a transparently Armenian surname, with “pezeshk” the native Persian word
> for physician. Wikipedia reports he is Azeri and I imagine he is Shia, my
> working guess is that one of his ancestors converted to Islam after the point
> that surnames became obligatory.
> 
> The Persian Wikipedia article lists him as a heart surgeon first, lots of
> respect for physicians in that country.
> 



sometimes i have this movie mixed up with another one
                                      in whch a big German guy appears.



The movie "Elevator to the Gallows" (French: Ascenseur pour l'échafaud)

Julien Tavernier (Maurice Ronet)

            Tavernier is a French occupational surname meaning innkeeper.


  i had ths surname mixed up with another one that
                            sounds  Persian or Iranian



Where does the name Travaglini come from?

Italian:         patronymic or plural form of a nickname from a 
diminutive of travaglio 'anguish, worry, distress' applied for a 
distressed person or from travagliare 'to work' applied for a hard 
worker or fatigued person.