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On 07/07/2024 12:23, Blueshirt wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote:
> 
>> On 06/07/2024 12:16, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> Plenty of cinemas in large UK cities must have shown the
>>> Doctor Who S1 finale as some people have said on Doctor Who
>>> online forums that they attended. Why would they lie?
>>
>> The BBC booked the theatres for a private showing. Even if no
>> one attended it would have counted as a full house. What is it
>> that you don't understand?
> 
> It wasn't a private showing. The cinema chains sold tickets
> directly to the public for Doctor Who, as they would any movie.
> This is easily researched. The BBC did not sell tickets direct.

Prove it. The cinemas would have given the tickets away for free or sold 
them on behalf of the BBC. What cut did the BBC get? Either way the 
theatres counted as being full even if they were all empty. That's how 
this scam works.

> 
> If any YouTube creator is telling you otherwise they are wrong.
> 

Watch the videos by Nerdrotic on YouTube where he and others attended 
empty theatres where Captain Marvel was sheened, and yet Disney claimed 
it made a billion. It made nothing. Disney spend the entire $300,000,000 
publicity budget on buying out theatre halls to claim they were full 
when they were actually empty.

>>> No, YOU are the one making an outrageous claim. Doctor Who
>>> has been shown in cinemas before, did you claim that was all
>>> made up too? What would the BBC achieve by taking viewers
>>> away from watching Doctor Who episodes on their iPlayer and
>>> having them sit in a cinema instead? That is not a logical
>>> proposition.
>>
>> No one is watching on iPlayer fool. We went through all that
>> last time.
> 
> Clearly that is not the case or the 28 day consolidated viewing
> figures would not be higher than the overnights. So if the

Those are all lies. The BBC is counting only 10 seconds as a view and 
baiting people to click on links. Those are not real viewing figures. 
The overnights are the only genuine figures.

> episode ratings are creeping up over 7/14/28 days, people must
> be watching Doctor Who on the iPlayer!

For only 10 seconds at a time. Not all the way through. It's exactly the 
same way they count people watching on YouTube. I have a YouTube channel 
and I know the true number of people watching and for how long, not just 
for 10 seconds.

> 
> I know you like conspiracy theories but BARB are not adding
> viewers to the Doctor Who ratings just to prove you wrong!
>   

The BBC are faking the statistics by counting 10 seconds as a view and 
counting people watching twice as a different view, and duping viewers 
to click on links to Doctor Whoke on iPlayer to bump up their fake 
viewing figures. Let them publish how many people actually watched each 
episode all the way from the start to the end?


>> The ratings are all fiddled. Amazon want The Boys at number 1,
>> My Lady Jane at number 2 and Space Cadet at number 3 so they
>> pushed them on everyone to give them the viewing figures they
>> wanted. It's all a pack of lies.
> 
> Says you.

Says everyone with any intelligence. Why isn't Picard still at number 1? 
It's because Amazon aren't promoting it as much. Why isn't Reacher still 
at number 1? Same reason. Most people in the country still haven't 
watched either series. Figure it out. You are being conned.

>   
>>> You sit in front of a PC you could easily have researched
>>> what cinemas were showing Doctor Who. But doing research
>>> doesn't suit
>>
>> Why should I? Doctor Who is dead.
> 
> Or, doing some research might prove you wrong?
>   

Research has been done. Doctor Who still remains dead.

>>> your agenda as it would prove you wrong. You could have even
>>> tried to book a seat to see if it was real if you were so
>>> sceptical.
>>
>> I did my research. See above. No one is watching Doctor Who
>> because it ended in 2017. No one is watching Doctor Whoke
>> either. The cinemas were all empty. It's the equivalent of
>> Amazon pretending people actually watched The Boys, My Lady
>> Jane, and Space Cadet. They didn't.
> 
> Try again... do some more research
>   

More research has been done. Observations have been made. Data has been 
taken. Doctor Who still remains dead.

>>> RTD didn't book any cinemas, or claim that he did.
>>
>> Yes he did or Bad Wolf or the BBC did. It was a stupid
>> publicity stunt.
> 
> Publicity for Doctor Who, yes. Having the season finale shown in
> the cinema was about boosting the show's public profile.
> 

So you agree that it was a publicity stunt?

>>> The cinemas reported £ in takings... that money was from
>>> tickets
>>
>> No they didn't. Where is your evidence? The BBC booked the
>> theatres and thus paid for all the tickets. It's an audience
>> figure manipulation fraud. No one went to watch but it still
>> counts as full rooms.
> 
> Then why were tickets advertised for sale by the various cinemas
> chains then if the BBC paid for all the tickets?
> 

The BBC wants to make its money back so it's reselling the tickets it 
already bought wholesale.

Do you understand how the retail industry works?

Shops don't buy the stuff they sell directly from the manufacturers. The 
manufacturers sell them to wholesalers and they mark the prices up by 
30% then the wholesalers sell them to the retailers and the retailers 
mark them up by 30%. The consumer always gets ripped off.

> https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-cinema-where-to-watch-finale/

Look at all the empty seats in those images.

> 
>>> sold. Why would the cinema chains report takings if they
>>> didn't get them. Is it all one big conspiracy just to prove
>>> YOU wrong?
>>
>> When was the last time a cinema reported what it pays in tax
>> to anyone but the tax man? The cinemas reported nothing.
> 
> Wrong again... cinemas always report their takings to someone or
> how do movies get to know what their box office takings were?
> Box office takings are a major metric for films.

Fool! The way movies get to know what their box office takings are is 
because the movie companies book all the theatres in advance of the 
screenings. These are tickets paid for and resold by the movie studios. 
That's what the publicity budget is spent on. The tickets which being 
bought out wholesale still count as full houses are then resold to the 
public, but even before they are resold the movies know how many viewers 
they are going to get. How do you think that the press is able to make 
accurate predictions of box office takings days before a film premier? 
Their inside sources with the studios have already told them how many 
theatres have been bought by the movie makers to fake the statistics. 
It's all a scam. If you go to the actual theatres themselves the seats 
are all empty.

> 
> Likewise, Doctor Who's takings were announced... so clearly you
> need to pay a bit more attention.
> 
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