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From: The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM>
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Subject: Re: Cinema Ratings
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 02:11:00 +0100
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On 07/07/2024 23:48, Blueshirt wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote:
> 
>> On 07/07/2024 12:23, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>
>>> It wasn't a private showing. The cinema chains sold tickets
>>> directly to the public for Doctor Who, as they would any
>>> movie.  This is easily researched. The BBC did not sell
>>> tickets direct.
>>
>> Prove it. The cinemas would have given the tickets away for
>> free or sold them on behalf of the BBC. What cut did the BBC
>> get? Either way the theatres counted as being full even if
>> they were all empty. That's how this scam works.
> 
> People went, there are plenty of people on a variety of Doctor
> Who online forums who have said they went and watched the Doctor
> Who season finale in the cinema. Why would every single one of
> them lie, what would they gain from doing so?

The question you ignorant fool is were the cinemas full, not were a few 
fans there to make YouTube videos or social media posts.

Where is the proof that the screening rooms were all full? There isn't 
any. If you disagree then prove otherwise.

>   
>>> If any YouTube creator is telling you otherwise they are
>>> wrong.
>>
>> Watch the videos by Nerdrotic on YouTube where he and others
>> attended empty theatres where Captain Marvel was sheened, and
>> yet Disney claimed it made a billion. It made nothing. Disney
>> spend the entire $300,000,000 publicity budget on buying out
>> theatre halls to claim they were full when they were actually
>> empty.
> 
> So you are basing your opinions on what people on YouTube say?
> <rolls eyes>
> 

I am basing my opinions on facts. You have not provided any.

> Do you ever ask them to provide a source for their info or
> photos of empty cinemas? What makes their opinions so special?
> You are more gullible than Dave!

They went to the cinemas and this is corroborated by others and they 
were the only people in the room, despite Disney claiming the cinemas 
were all full.

>   
>>> Clearly that is not the case or the 28 day consolidated
>>> viewing figures would not be higher than the overnights. So
>>> if the
>>
>> Those are all lies. The BBC is counting only 10 seconds as a
>> view and baiting people to click on links. Those are not real
>> viewing figures. The overnights are the only genuine figures.
> 
> No they are not, or there wouldn't be 28 day consolidated
> figures published in the first place. Stop living in the past
 > you clown, it's not 1975.

The 28 day consolidated figures are all fake. It's the same people being 
counted more than once or click bait 10 second views all added up. If 
iPlayer existed in 1989 then episode 1 of Battlefield would have got 
more than 6 million viewers after 28 days.

>Overnights are only a small part of
> the story these days. Which is something you and your idiotic
> agenda driven YouTube buddies can't seem to grasp.
> 

Overnights are the only thing that matter to advertisers. It's always 
been that way. Nothing has changed.

>>> episode ratings are creeping up over 7/14/28 days, people
>>> must be watching Doctor Who on the iPlayer!
>>
>> For only 10 seconds at a time. Not all the way through. It's
>> exactly the same way they count people watching on YouTube. I
>> have a YouTube channel and I know the true number of people
>> watching and for how long, not just for 10 seconds.
> 
> Your YouTube channel is not Doctor Who... and without even

That is irrelevant.

> watching your channel I'd guess it's about as exciting as
> watching paint dry, which would explain why people can only
> handle ten seconds at a time. I see what you are like here, I
> couldn't handle listening to you on a fucking video!

Says the ignorant demented degenerate fool that admits to not having 
watched my channel. I don't talk on it you stupid retard. It's a gaming 
channel. It shows game play and sometimes but not very often if I'm in 
the mood I might do a live commentary on the game but I've not done that 
for months.

> 
>>> I know you like conspiracy theories but BARB are not adding
>>> viewers to the Doctor Who ratings just to prove you wrong!
>>
>> The BBC are faking the statistics by counting 10 seconds as a
>> view and counting people watching twice as a different view,
>> and duping viewers to click on links to Doctor Whoke on
>> iPlayer to bump up their fake viewing figures. Let them
>> publish how many people actually watched each episode all the
>> way from the start to the end?
> 
> BARB compile the viewing figures in the UK, not the BBC.
> 

The BBC provide the data. It's all a scam.

> If the BBC are faking figures why don't they say ten million
> people watched Doctor Who then? You make about as much sense as

Because despite them faking the figures people are not clicking on their 
click bait links to watch Doctor Whoke online. They know it's crap. Fool 
me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on you.

> a five year old with a mental deficiency. If you are going to
> create fake viewing figures you don't create fake amounts that
> are among the lowest figures the show has ever got!!!
>   

200,000 views is the best they can get online. If they tried to claim 20 
million no one would believe them. What the are not telling people you 5 
year old retard is that 200,000 views is only 2,000 watching each 
episode from start to finish.

>>>> The ratings are all fiddled. Amazon want The Boys at
>>>> number 1, My Lady Jane at number 2 and Space Cadet at
>>>> number 3 so they pushed them on everyone to give them the
>>>> viewing figures they wanted. It's all a pack of lies.
>>>
>>> Says you.
>>
>> Says everyone with any intelligence. Why isn't Picard still at
>> number 1? It's because Amazon aren't promoting it as much. Why
>> isn't Reacher still at number 1? Same reason. Most people in
>> the country still haven't watched either series. Figure it
>> out. You are being conned.
> 
> No, you are trying to con me, and I can smell the bullshit from
> here.

You know nothing about how the industry works. If Amazon wanted Reacher 
or Picard or Fallout to be number 1 this week it would be. Everyone 
knows the viewing figures are a scam.

> 
> You back none of your claims up with evidence and when figures
> are published that prove you wrong, you then claim everyone is
> lying!

It's up to Amazon, Disney and the BBC to publish the real figures. Why 
do you think they refuse to do so?

> 
> Because somebody on YouTube said so. (You are easily led!)
>   

Because they know that no one is watching their shows online. Let the 
streamers prove otherwise if they claim otherwise.

>>> Then why were tickets advertised for sale by the various
>>> cinemas chains then if the BBC paid for all the tickets?
>>>
>>
>> The BBC wants to make its money back so it's reselling the
>> tickets it already bought wholesale.
>>
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