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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal
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On 7/7/2024 10:02 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 7/7/2024 9:54 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 7/7/24 10:52 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 7/7/2024 9:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 7/7/24 10:22 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 7/7/2024 1:30 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is "Not-a-logic-sentence" a truth value that True, of ~false can 
>>>>>> return or not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *I will try to be perfectly clear*
>>>>> Not-a-logic-sentence(L,x) ≡ (~True(L,x) ∧ ~True(L,~x))
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In other words, you have no idea of how to express you concept in 
>>>> the terms of how a logic would be built with it, as you just don't 
>>>> undertand how logic works.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That every expression of language that is {true on the basis of
>>> its meaning expressed using language} must have a connection by
>>> truth preserving operations to its {meaning expressed using language}
>>> is a tautology. The accurate model of the actual world is expressed
>>> using formal language and formalized natural language.
>>>
>>
>> Word salad.
>>
>> No such model exists, so you are basing your system on faery dust.
>>
>> You just don't understand what you are talking about, and think Formal 
>> Logic is just like the abstract philosophy you seemed to have studied 
>> a bit of.
> 
> Formal logic is a subset of this.
> Not-a-logic-sentence(PA,g) ≡ (~True(PA,g) ∧ ~True(PA,~g))
> There are no truth preserving operations in PA to g or to ~g
> 

https://liarparadox.org/Tarski_275_276.pdf

Within my analytical framework this Tarski sentence is merely
self-contradictory

(3) x ∉ Provable if and only if x ∈ True. // (1) and (2) combined

There are no truth preserving operations in Tarski's
theory to x if and only if There are truth preserving
operations in Tarski's theory to x

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer