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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: HMAC cipher and a TRNG... Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 22:37:09 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <v6ftu6$od4m$2@dont-email.me> References: <v69m0j$3e2id$1@dont-email.me> <v69vjv$3fu1v$1@dont-email.me> <v6cclq$3veiq$1@dont-email.me> <v6cemu$3vkt2$1@dont-email.me> <v6eqj8$f608$1@dont-email.me> <v6flab$n028$1@dont-email.me> <v6ftof$od4m$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2024 07:37:10 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d261bcbd6346c8c1e41bc57b2f9d4cc7"; logging-data="799894"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+28bB8Psrr6PsQSkFmc8T6QbFwPM10c78=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:YYxP3Fq4JAUt5CMsJpGyNIKTKg0= In-Reply-To: <v6ftof$od4m$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 1929 On 7/7/2024 10:34 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 7/7/2024 8:10 PM, Rich wrote: >> Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: [...] >> Same key, same plaintext, two different ciphertexts. > > Both. I wanted each encryption using the same key and plaintext to > create radically different ciphertexts. > > Also, I wanted it to be bit sensitive. If a single bit of ciphertext is > altered it will decrypt to random junk. > > My HMAC Cipher experiment does both. > > I think those are interesting things. You can play around with this on my site. Try altering the ciphertext in anyway, and hit decrypt. The plaintext will be random garbage. It would help if my site used a real TRNG, but oh well for now.