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On 7/7/2024 9:47 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 7/7/2024 10:06 PM, John B. wrote:
>>
>> Ah Frankie, how quickly he forgets. My referencing 
>> Vermont, New
>> Hampshire and Maine was in direct reference to Franking 
>> stating that
>> is you have a gun in the house you are more likely to die 
>> from a
>> gunshot , which seems to be a statement that is applicable 
>> to all
>> houses with guns. I simply pointed that,  as is so common 
>> with
>> Frankie's posts, that in at least three cases he was wrong. 
> 
> <sigh>  John, your knowledge of data and statistics and 
> their interpretation seems pretty dismal!
> 
> "... more likely to die ..." does not imply "In every case 
> you will die," just as "Smoking causes cancer" does not 
> imply every smoker will die of cancer.
> 
> And national data does not necessarily apply to every 
> neighborhood, every city or every state. There are 
> exceptions to every average condition - that's among the 
> meanings conveyed by the Normal Curve I keep referencing.
> 
> Those exceptions do not disprove the fact that by national 
> averages, if you have a gun in the home, you are more likely 
> to die from a gunshot.
> 
> Also, as I've stated repeatedly, I have no problem with 
> hunting, and for guns designed for hunting. That puts the 
> majority of the guns in super-rural Vermont, New Hampshire 
> and Maine out of the discussion. Those people cause almost 
> no problems by hunting using guns that will probably never 
> fire more than four rounds in one minute.
> 
> Now this next bit of math discussion may baffle you, but:
> 
> If we remove guns designed for hunting from the 
> computations; or if we remove rural areas where such guns 
> are typically used; then in the remaining areas (places like 
> suburban Wisconsin, suburban Florida, Tom's hellhole etc.) 
> the correlation between gun ownership and gun death would be 
> even stronger. Think about that.
> 

And firearms death rates are highest where lawful ownership 
is severely restricted; c.f. Chicago, but not only.
-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971