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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 13:50:16 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <v6hje8$1140v$2@dont-email.me> References: <leto4eFasrbU6@mid.individual.net> <v6cdk0$qnp$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <letvsdFh2f2U1@mid.individual.net> <v6ck9o$2o45$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <levauqFmm0pU1@mid.individual.net> <v6e626$15id$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v6efem$d3v6$2@dont-email.me> <lf06e6Fr6k6U2@mid.individual.net> <lf0rt7Fmm0pU8@mid.individual.net> <v6fhmo$2t3q$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v6h2m5$u1t5$2@dont-email.me> <lf2qjqF8ogaU1@mid.individual.net> <v6hj46$u13$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2024 22:50:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5d2197d93767afcb41668b32eec1d61b"; logging-data="1085471"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18yzix86Xhat09ITkE+UDzQHoBfq0RNJXY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:aZdppmg2g30mOCZLFhsI+WLA7rk= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: <v6hj46$u13$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> Bytes: 3442 On 2024-07-08 13:44, Andrew wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote on Mon, 8 Jul 2024 20:48:26 +0200 : > >>> How can you send and receive messages with those devices? >> >> Any messaging platform will require some kind of login. And an SMS >> replacement messaging platform will require a phone number associated, >> thus a SIM card active. > > Hi Carlos, > > When you use "some kind of login", what I mean by a login/password account > on an Internet server is specifically setting up an account on the phone to > that mothership server (e.g., to Google) which is not required on Android. That's not what you meant when this discussion commenced. > > As Andy noted, plenty of people are incredibly stupid so they do set up a > login/password to Google servers on their phone - but it's never required. > > Hell, I must have dozens of Google email addresses and I get my mail on > Android just fine *without* setting up a login/password to a Google account > on my phone. But I know how a phone works. Most people are clueless. > > The connection to the cellular provider is a completely different thing > than is the connection to an Internet server by the way. > > If you can't tell the difference, no wonder you're saying what you did. > > The fact is that an Android phone works fine WITHOUT setting up a > login/password to a server on the Internet - whether you know that or not. > > 1. I have no Internet account set up on my phone > 2. And my phone makes & receives calls just fine > 3. And it makes & receives SMS/MMS texts just fine > > Hell, even the dumb-terminal Apple devices can make & receive SMS/MMS texts > just fine without the user having to log into Apple's mothership servers. > > In summary, anyone claiming the mothership Internet account/password is > required doesn't understand even the simplest of the basics of Android.