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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: question about nullptr Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 06:42:30 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: <v6iik7$1948o$1@dont-email.me> References: <v6bavg$3pu5i$1@dont-email.me> <90c2181ae4c7aac8f17f076093923d5b357c43aa@i2pn2.org> <v6bt15$3svoi$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: nospam.harnden@invalid.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2024 07:42:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d2209780dcf181000707699c1bdef0b2"; logging-data="1347864"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+43zHlGcDJ5FED7XaV9KzzOwF3vKCJ/TM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:eL8B5wlw4tTmHfa4J82My7hdEyQ= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <v6bt15$3svoi$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3166 On 06/07/2024 17:57, David Brown wrote: > On 06/07/2024 16:39, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 7/6/24 7:49 AM, Thiago Adams wrote: >>> If you were creating C code today and could use a C23 compiler, would >>> you use nullptr instead of NULL? >>> >>> I am asking because I think I will keep using NULL. >>> >>> I like nullptr semantics but I don't like to introduce new element >>> (nullptr) inside the code with no guarantee that the code will not >>> mix both. >>> >>> In the past we also didn't have a guarantee we are not mixing 0 or NULL. >>> >>> I think the best scenario for a team guideline would be a style >>> warning if 0 or nullptr is used and NULL to be defined as nullptr in >>> a C23 compiler. >>> >> >> The (small) problem with 0 or NULL being use is that in a context >> where you THINK you are passing a pointer, but the function actually >> is taking an integer value, 0 or NULL (defined as a 0) passes the >> syntax check. >> >> If C23 REQURIED NULL to be defined as nullptr, then NULL would have >> been used, but as far as I know, it is still allowed to be defined as >> 0 (unless you also have POSIX compatibility). >> >> With POSIX Compatibility, where NULL must have the type of (void*) you >> also avoid the possible error, and thus the desire to use nullptr. > > I hope that defining NULL as nullptr will become common - but I would be > surprised to ever see it being required by C standards. > > The ideal would be for C libraries to define NULL as nullptr and for C > compilers to support a flag like gcc's "-Wzero-as-null-pointer-constant" > warning (it is currently C++ only). Then people can easily eliminate > any mixup between integer 0 and null pointer constants by using that > flag and either NULL or nullptr, according to taste. (And those who > don't want such checks, are not required to change.) > > So, if malloc was changed to 'returns nullptr and sets errno on error', will you still be able to say: if ( p == NULL ) ... if ( !p ) ... ?