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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: ... crisp apple strudles, Door bells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles, Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:48:15 +1200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 80 Message-ID: <v6k7mn$1haei$1@dont-email.me> References: <v6htcc$12k20$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: r.clark@auckland.ac.nz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2024 22:48:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a196e07e291f46dc94fc4a64bc00f17c"; logging-data="1616338"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+ZVOhta6nC3qgT/KSUVbKXohTMg+RPjE=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:yQbwsNF2wuKbwjMoGtn/LSTx8gY= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <v6htcc$12k20$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4188 On 9/07/2024 11:39 a.m., HenHanna wrote: > > There is a great story behind the publication (history) of this song. > "My Favorite Things" i forgot what the story is. > > > Rain drops on roses and whiskers on kittens, > Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens, > Brown paper packages tied up with strings... > These are a few of my favorite things. > > Cream-colored ponies and crisp apple strudles, > Door bells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles, > Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings... > These are a few of my favorite things. > > > > No, schnitzel in the USA is not generally associated > with Jews. Schnitzel is a breaded and fried cutlet dish of Central > European origin, particularly popular in Austria and Germany. > While some specific variations might be found in Jewish cuisine, > schnitzel itself is not inherently Jewish food in the United States. > > ______________________ > > > The song "My Favorite Things" was first performed in the 1959 Broadway > musical "The Sound of Music." > > Here's a breakdown to see if schnitzel was associated with NYC in the > USA around that time: > > Schnitzel's Origin: Schnitzel is a Central European dish, > particularly popular in Austria and Germany. While there's no evidence > it originated in New York City. > > > German Immigration: New York City has a long history of German > immigration, dating back to the 18th century. > > By the 1950s, German-American communities were well established in NYC, > particularly in areas like Yorkville on the Upper East Side. > > These communities likely brought their food traditions with them, > including schnitzel. > > > Restaurant Scene: While not necessarily mainstream American cuisine > in the 1950s, schnitzel might have been available in German restaurants > or specific ethnic neighborhoods in NYC. However, it wouldn't have > been as widely recognized as it is today. > > _________________________________ > > There isn't a single iconic restaurant in NYC as strongly associated > with schnitzel as Katz's Deli is with the Reuben sandwich. > > However, schnitzel has a presence in NYC, particularly in: > > German and Central European Restaurants: These restaurants are > likely to feature schnitzel on their menus, often with various > preparations (veal, pork, chicken) and sauces. > > > > _________________ > > Schnitzel: Central Europe, particularly Austria and Germany. > > Tonkatsu: Japan (derived from the Portuguese word "costeleta" for > cutlet). or French. > No, you won't get tonkatsu from costeleta! Katsu is short for katsuretsu < Eng cutlet (which itself is related to costeleta, via Old French costelet). Ton is Sino-Japanese for "pig". Tonkatsu is a pork cutlet.