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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:04:00 -0000 (UTC)
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On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:48:09 -0700, john larkin wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:18:23 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
> <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 06:52:49 -0700, john larkin wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 09:24:30 -0000 (UTC), RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On 9 Jul 2024 at 05:04:24 BST, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From time to time I get to remind the qroup that I'm a democratic
>>>>> socialist - while Communists are autocratic socialists,
>>>>> and got slung out of the International Socialist movements in 1871,
>>>>> when Karl Marx's silly ideas about "the leading role" of the party
>>>>> were rejected.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>Very kind of you! But a small point - the CP was, theoretically, a
>>>>socialist bridge to communism. Nobody - especially Marx - know what
>>>>communism would be in detail - simply that the process of
>>>>revolutionary socialism would put an end to capitalism for the right
>>>>reasons.
>>>>
>>>>> Mikhail Bakunin's famous quote dates from that period
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/801264-if-you-took-the-most-ardent-
>>revolutionary-vested-him-in
>>>>
>>>>So history might suggest :-)
>>> 
>>> In other words, power corrupts.
>>> 
>>> Which means that governments are dynamically unstable, and a
>>> long-term-democratic society is a remarkable thing.
>>> 
>>> Why end "capitalism"? Economic and intellectual plualism works.
>>
>>So does a mixed economy of both private enterprise and publicly-owned
>>bodies if the size of the state sector can be constrained.
>>Unfortunately,
>>states have a tendency to grow themselves if not kept in strict check
>>and this is in large part responsible for the truly *vast* debt burden
>>now carried on the back of so many Western countries.
> 
> There's a race between government getting bigger and wasting ever more
> resources, and technology making us more productive to support all that
> waste.
> 
> I was just talking to a fellow old fogey (who is literally a Fellow) and
> we agree that young people are getting stupider, so the productivity
> increase probably can't  keep up.

Well, to be fair, that phenomenon is confined to the West and is due to 
the dogmatic insistence of Leftists that all are equal and must be 
educated accordingly. So the classes grind away at the speed of the 
slowest ship in the convoy ("no child left behind" - George Bush Jr - 
RINO). The brighter children in the class are thus dumbed down at best (at 
worst, switch off altogether and start sniffing glue) and grade inflation 
is employed to fudge the facts and make it appear that everything's fine 
when it most assuredly isn't. This is definitely NOT happening in 
countries like China and that is why they're kicking our arses and have 
been for some time.

> Yes, the debt will have consequences too. It keeps increasing and can
> never be paid back. Economists keep getting stupider too.

"Top economists" are no different from the "top climate scientists" - 
they're paid handsomely for parroting whatever the Globalists at the WEF 
tell them.