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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,uk.d-i-y Subject: Re: OT: EV Charging Stations Stripped of Copper Cables Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:20:28 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <v6n4vs$20818$9@dont-email.me> References: <v64kvk$2cc3j$2@dont-email.me> <iufq8jhjsia1qdm4pt2vgrovkhrpt8nj8u@4ax.com> <v6mfov$20818$3@dont-email.me> <6tht8j9kcaomraffha67s0ih4qeesl8hj6@4ax.com> <v6mjh2$212l3$1@dont-email.me> <20240710205319.0c0a4f3e@jrenewsid.jretrading.com> <t0tt8j1u9g7npicqmmve349plfc3lenqac@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 01:20:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0bfd490a1359f0b6bc2def6b7daed310"; logging-data="2105384"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX199LsldmskneYDfsDw0MJmvyibWuNOx6nM=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jPCXRvNR66/dh///DnupK+L8t7s= Bytes: 2874 On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:00:57 -0700, john larkin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:53:19 +0100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote: > >>On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:22:26 -0000 (UTC) >>RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Not sure that holds on a number of levels - technology was supposed to >>> result in a 3 day week and prosperity for all when I was growing up in >>> the 60s. >>> >>> And I've just come across Jevons paradox while studying retrofit. The >>> notion that as technology increases efficiency and reduces cost, a >>> sort of dumb reaction happens, where people tend to consume more - >>> 'leave the heating on - it's an ASHP and hardly using any electricity' >>> type of thing. Apparently it's quite common in energy efficient homes. >>> >>> >>That's one factor, another is the enormous increase in regulations since >>the Sixties. Not only is government much larger, but private businesses >>must employ or hire accountants, compliance officers and other lawyers >>to keep the directors out of jail. The work force has to a large degree >>shifted from productive work to non-productive work. > > Starting a business is horrible. You need a zillion registrations and > businesses licenses, local and state and federal. You need a lawyer (at > $500/hour) and an accountant and a business manager, three overhead > people for one working employee. And a Board of Directors and insurance > for them. > > Not to mention product liability insurance, UL and FCC and CE > compliance, ITAR and stuff. Aside from the unavoidable Federal stuff, I gather it's much less burdensome in Florida.