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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad Subject: Re: For decades, Apple has had the highest marketing and the worst (lowest) R&D in all of high tech Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:52:36 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <v6ndt5$252gd$2@dont-email.me> References: <v6ndd2$1g7q$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 03:52:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1a94272d18963178958680221f35bdd7"; logging-data="2263565"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+QnjUNRNjNzP++1w4CV0/oxUPRqWTQo/g=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ycKYuvpKOgez/A0Vz8YvD0Ur5ZQ= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: <v6ndd2$1g7q$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> Bytes: 3078 On 2024-07-10 18:44, Andrew wrote: > No high tech company spends *less* than Apple in R&D, proportionate to > revenue (and a vast number of far smaller companies spend more in toto). False. > > It has been widely known by intelligent well-informed people, that, for > decades, Apple has had the highest marketing & lowest R&D spend of all high > tech - which even Steve Jobs openly admitted many times as covered prior. > > *Does it surprise you Apple spends less in R&D* > *(proportionate to revenue) than similar tech companies?* > <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/STrAkx09VYk/> Why is proportionality important? R&D is done in relation to PRODUCTS. A company doesn't become more innovative if its revenues drop and it doesn't become less innovative if its revenues rise. > > The question is whether or not Apple still has the bottom-of-the barrel > lowest R&D spend based on percentage of revenue of all similar companies? > > NOTE: The ignorant uneducated Apple religious zealots will scream to defend > Apple's atrocious R&D spending but they lack the math skills to take into > account the size of Apple where companies 1/100th Apple's size spend more > in total dollars, let alone similarly sized companies' spend in percentage. > > Also note the ignorant Apple religious zealots are incapable of clicking on > links; so they'll claim that's "just a thread", which discounts the scores > of well-researched well-publicized cites in that thread. > > Lastly, note the Apple zealots will brazenly lie to protect Apple's honor > because they *hate* that Apple is all marketing and no R&D - where they > will claim the total is more than companies which are 1/100th Apple's size > (which simply proves that Apple spends almost nothing proportionality in > R&D). Again, the simple fact is that many companies spend far more than Apple on marketing.