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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Yersinia pestis (Minnich's research bacterium) found in ancient human bones. Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:40:46 -0400 Organization: Eek Lines: 26 Sender: news%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <v6pn1g$2lneu$1@dont-email.me> References: <v6pf2j$2k2gc$2@dont-email.me> Reply-To: jtem01@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="45084"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:HPlNtmM6Bl45O/tQDxPUj1fp6Zs= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 4CAE622987A; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:40:47 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B52229878 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:40:44 -0400 (EDT) id 5EED57D121; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B04F7D11E for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CBB25F760 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/4CBB25F760; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id BFCA2DC01A9; Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:40:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:40:48 +0200 (CEST) Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+mPzv7mK9uNoHtYJTk5qxNu6VWa7iPpfA= In-Reply-To: <v6pf2j$2k2gc$2@dont-email.me> FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3674 RonO wrote: > A hunter gatherer diet is much better than an agricultural diet, and > they might not have been very good farmers. The advantage of > agriculture is that it can sustain larger populations on the same amount > of land, but those populations do not have to be very healthy. I have heard much the same thing for my entire life; lifespans began to drop with the switch from hunter-gatherer to agriculture. The advantage appears to be population densities -- a simple matter of how many mouths you can feed. People didn't live even as long as Neanderthals but, evolution works at the level of a population not an individual.... I've often argued this point with Aquatic Ape as exploiting the sea can support a higher population density than inland hunter gathering. Looking at Chimps: The savanna supports the _Lowest_ population density! So the idea that humans could have evolutionarily benefited from a reduced gene pool seems odd, to say the least. -- https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5