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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: bart <bc@freeuk.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_technology_discussion_=E2=86=92_does_the_world_need?= =?UTF-8?B?IGEgIm5ldyIgQyA/?= Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:21:02 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <v6r3iv$30gru$1@dont-email.me> References: <v66eci$2qeee$1@dont-email.me> <v6ard1$3ngh6$4@dont-email.me> <v6b0jv$3nnt6$1@dont-email.me> <87h6d2uox5.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <v6d779$6rk5$2@dont-email.me> <v6e76u$c0i9$1@dont-email.me> <v6esqm$fian$2@dont-email.me> <v6f7vg$hgam$1@dont-email.me> <20240707164747.258@kylheku.com> <v6gl83$s72a$1@dont-email.me> <v6h8ao$ur1v$1@dont-email.me> <v6jhk3$1drd6$1@dont-email.me> <v6jiud$1dsjb$1@dont-email.me> <877cdur1z9.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v6joi4$1epoj$1@dont-email.me> <871q42qy33.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v6k6i0$1h4d3$1@dont-email.me> <87ed82p28y.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v6m03l$1tf05$1@dont-email.me> <87r0c1nzjj.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v6m716$1urj4$1@dont-email.me> <87ikxconq4.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v6n8iu$24af0$1@dont-email.me> <20240711115418.00001cdf@yahoo.com> <v6oamt$2d8nn$1@dont-email.me> <v6oct4$2djgq$2@dont-email.me> <v6of96$2ekb0$1@dont-email.me> <v6ovfc$2hcpf$1@dont-email.me> <v6p4hf$2icph$1@dont-email.me> <v6qgpu$2t6p7$3@dont-email.me> <v6r33m$30grj$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:21:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="70309d0afdade4e9fabfb798d5d70205"; logging-data="3163006"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/NEQB4wePCZDllIaCgwIwR" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:cu+f+BUiwrKOrxkgoAaksHVukzs= In-Reply-To: <v6r33m$30grj$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3147 On 12/07/2024 12:12, Janis Papanagnou wrote: > On 12.07.2024 08:00, David Brown wrote: >> [...] >> >> I can understand when someone new to C gets mixed up about how arrays >> work. > > I can't understand that if I presume that the person has read any > basic textbook about "C". > >> I don't understand how someone can remain so stubbornly confused >> when they have been told how C /actually/ works. > > Especially if the one has said to have written an own language that > is close enough to "C" where I'd expect the knowledge to be there > already before that person is designing and implementing his project. > > I wonder why he refuses to look up things if he thinks that all the > experts here are wrong about a well documented fact. If you had to describe to someone how a function accesses array data in its caller, what would you say? It's clearly not by value. It's apparently not by reference. You can't get away with saying they are not passed, as clearly functions *can* access array data via parameters. Or would you merely refer to the relevant section in the language reference? Just curious.