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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is correctly rejected as
 non-halting.
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:34:59 -0500
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On 7/12/2024 3:08 AM, joes wrote:
> Am Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:56:09 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 7/11/2024 3:19 PM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:05:58 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 7/11/2024 9:25 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:10:24 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 7/11/2024 1:25 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-07-10 17:53:38 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>> On 7/10/2024 12:45 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Op 10.jul.2024 om 17:03 schreef olcott:
> 
>>>>>> When DDD is correctly emulated by HHH according to the semantics of
>>>>>> the x86 programming language HHH must abort its emulation of DDD or
>>>>>> both HHH and DDD never halt.
>>>>> If the recursive call to HHH from DDD halts, the outer HHH doesn't
>>>>> need to abort.
>>> Do you mean that HHH doesn't halt?
> This.
> 
>>>>> DDD depends totally on HHH; it halts exactly when HHH does.
>>>>> Which it does, because it aborts.
>>> What does HHH do after it aborts?
> And this one.
> 
>>>> DDD correctly simulated by HHH has provably different behavior than
>>>> DDD correctly simulated by HHH1.
>>> Which means that HHH is not doing the simulation correctly.
>> When HHH simulates DDD according to the semantics of the x86 language
>> then HHH is simulating correctly. When people disagree with the
>> semantics of the x86 language THEY ARE WRONG !!!
> Aborting is not a correct simulation.
> Please answer the other questions above.
> 

Aborting is what a simulating termination analyzer must
do for any input that cannot possibly otherwise stop running.

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