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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is correctly rejected as non-halting. Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:54:13 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <v6rg2l$32o1o$2@dont-email.me> References: <v6m7si$1uq86$2@dont-email.me> <v6mhc7$20hbo$2@dont-email.me> <v6mhr3$20kkr$2@dont-email.me> <v6nts5$2be3m$1@dont-email.me> <v6op4h$2fuva$4@dont-email.me> <ea8aa365d662f11cf1ae48d59cf9b7dd95d8edc8@i2pn2.org> <v6oscm$2fuva$12@dont-email.me> <f971e4043ec8a046697fad1f226221516ba7c13e@i2pn2.org> <v6pgt9$2kc07$1@dont-email.me> <ce0a250902cd90698367e11a5900e68f6163eec3@i2pn2.org> <v6r7tj$30qtt$4@dont-email.me> <4128db190e2b141173f57dca0d7e303eae9e6164@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:54:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a53340e46817c86b736359d5ee28d54a"; logging-data="3235896"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19is1XnRxIPpdDWsUU4tqYP" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:PMCMPUQco6bJ/vzwALXgkUhjGMo= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <4128db190e2b141173f57dca0d7e303eae9e6164@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3184 On 7/12/2024 8:46 AM, joes wrote: > Am Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:34:59 -0500 schrieb olcott: > >> Aborting is what a simulating termination analyzer must do for any input >> that cannot possibly otherwise stop running. > Yes, which makes it not a simulator. > Why does DDD not halt? > We stipulate that the only measure of a correct emulation is the semantics of the x86 programming language. _DDD() [00002163] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002164] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002166] 6863210000 push 00002163 ; push DDD [0000216b] e853f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DDD) [00002170] 83c404 add esp,+04 [00002173] 5d pop ebp [00002174] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0018) [00002174] When N steps of DDD are emulated by HHH according to the semantics of the x86 language then N steps are emulated correctly. When we examine the infinite set of every HHH/DDD pair such that: HHH₁ one step of DDD is correctly emulated by HHH. HHH₂ two steps of DDD are correctly emulated by HHH. HHH₃ three steps of DDD are correctly emulated by HHH. .... HHH∞ The emulation of DDD by HHH never stops running. The above specifies the infinite set of every HHH/DDD pair where 1 to infinity steps of DDD are correctly emulated by HHH. No DDD instance of each HHH/DDD pair ever reaches past its own machine address of 0000216b and halts. Thus each HHH element of the above infinite set of HHH/DDD pairs is necessarily correct to reject its DDD as non-halting. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer