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On 12/07/2024 20:13, bart wrote:
> On 12/07/2024 13:36, David Brown wrote:
> 
>> One person's private sort-of-C compiler is of no more relevance to the 
>> C community than one person's private language.  You are welcome to 
>> make as many non-conforming changes to your own tools as you like, but 
>> they do not make a difference to C.  No one else will ever use your 
>> tool, so no one else will ever care about any incompatible changes you 
>> make to it.  If /you/ are happier having such changes in your tools, 
>> then that is great for you.
> 
> Jesus, you just can't resist putting the boot in at every opportunity 
> and being incredibly patronising, can you?
> 

If you say stupid things, repeatedly, you should not be surprised if 
people try to dumb down the way they speak to you.

Start applying a bit of your intelligence (you say stupid things 
sometimes, but I know you are far from stupid), and you'll find the 
level of conversation going up.

> I made the tweak to see how hard it would be to detect value-arrays 
> declared in parameter list (it was very easy), and what the consequences 
> would be on existing code (significant).

No, the consequences are non-existent because no one uses your tool, and 
no one will ever copy that change in other tools (of significance).

> 
> The example I posted showed a type (const char* x[]) where there was no 
> advantage to having that value array notation. Using 'const char**' 
> would be a more accurate description of the actual parameter type.
> 

You can write your code the way you want to write it - it will not 
change the way anyone else writes their code.  It really is that simple. 
  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

Do you really suppose that if /you/ make "foo(char x[])" a syntax error 
in /your/ compiler, it will have the slightest effect on how other 
people write their C code?  Or on what other C compilers do?  Or on how 
half a century of existing C code is written?


Personally, I don't like that C allows something that /looks/ like 
arrays can be passed to functions, but doesn't work that way.  I don't 
think I have ever written a function with an array-like parameter - I 
use a pointer parameter if I mean a pointer, or have the array wrapped 
in a struct if I want to pass an array by value.  But I don't think my 
opinions make a difference to C, and even if I were elected dictator of 
C for a day, I don't think my opinions should count more than any one 
else's - including those that like the way C works here.

And I don't confuse my opinions or preferences with how C actually works 
and how it is actually defined, and I certainly don't spread such 
confusions and misunderstandings to others.