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From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Google Groups
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 07:51:55 -0400
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On 7/12/2024 7:36 AM, Eric Pozharski wrote:
> with <v6p6og$2idvu$1@dont-email.me> Zen Cycle wrote:

<snipped some>

> 
>>>> especially when some practitioners at the nonprofit charge full fees
>>>> for some of the work they do,
>>> I'm not certain that occasional voluntary donations constitute "full
>>> fees for some of the work".
>> "especially when" is not a disqualifying caveat.
> 
> That's for certain.  But does "voluntary donations" constitute "full
> fees"?

Likely not, but as I wrote "especially when" is not disqualifying

<snipped a bit more>

>> 3. Does the nonprofit derives an unfair advantage over others because
>> it does not have to comply with Wage & Hour Laws?
>> If ES relies exclusively on volunteer labor due to its non-profit
>> status, then it has a competitive advantage over an incorporated
>> for-profit business that is required to adhere to wage and labor laws,
>> so, yes.
> 
> Let's make it clear.  I'm not arguing.  I don't influence either.  I'm
> asking for your competent opinion.
> 
> Is 'one-man shop with voluntary donations' equivalent with 'enterprise
> relying on volunteer labor'?

That would be for the courts to decide. The test as it's written would 
certainly allow a contestable case.

BTW - it's nice seeing a poster in here with an understanding and 
respect for usenetiquette.