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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is *IN*Correctly rejected as non-halting V2 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 13:22:56 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 72 Message-ID: <v6ugm0$3mpsd$2@dont-email.me> References: <v6rg65$32o1o$3@dont-email.me> <97e0632d0d889d141bdc6005ce6e513c53867798@i2pn2.org> <v6sdlu$382g0$1@dont-email.me> <v6td3a$3ge79$1@dont-email.me> <v6tp1j$3imib$2@dont-email.me> <v6trdu$3irhh$1@dont-email.me> <v6tu01$3imib$11@dont-email.me> <73002e2c01a3e0e25970368972b0cbd63b2259eb@i2pn2.org> <v6tvc1$3imib$12@dont-email.me> <6b7d5975ca67ce8e8cc382bca3cb8e163651b34f@i2pn2.org> <v6u3b6$3khl8$2@dont-email.me> <57941999a59cec1606b32d7e826220090ef6a0d8@i2pn2.org> <v6u5m1$3kk0j$1@dont-email.me> <d1a84a169eed1d032a15980485efd74cfcf37f27@i2pn2.org> <v6u6qc$3l1ng$1@dont-email.me> <b03cfdd394c5fa119a6d7f9e0773400b4ff7e51a@i2pn2.org> <v6u9do$3lk9a$1@dont-email.me> <ff4e5dec31ed5ab289ec2ff42d433e600835a2ea@i2pn2.org> <v6uas5$3ls1t$1@dont-email.me> <2dd14c885a42894e18753d6e41417e6e5e18c4b4@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 20:22:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="52398669a80ff5113c36343403a598c9"; logging-data="3893133"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+r2F+PYjirWASqR4Huh0Sz" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:0PTprJvaJIVrfvNO2ZKc7HX1ekU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <2dd14c885a42894e18753d6e41417e6e5e18c4b4@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 4611 On 7/13/2024 12:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/13/24 12:43 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/13/2024 11:31 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 7/13/24 12:19 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 7/13/2024 11:05 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 7/13/24 11:34 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 7/13/2024 10:25 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 7/13/24 11:15 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In other words when you are very hungry you have the >>>>>>>> free will to decide that you are not hungry at all >>>>>>>> and never eat anything ever again with no ill effects >>>>>>>> to your health what-so-ever. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just shows that though I have free will, I am also in a Universe >>>>>>> with a lot of determinism. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try and use this free will to make a square circle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope, just shows you don't know what you are talking about and >>>>>>> need to switch to Red Herring because you lost the argument. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Face it, all you have proved is that you are nothing but a >>>>>>> pathetic ignorant pathological lying idiot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After HHH has already aborted its simulation of DDD >>>>>>>>>> and returns to the DDD that called it is not the same >>>>>>>>>> behavior as DDD simulated by HHH that must be aborted. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, and the question is about the behavior of DDD, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the input finite string not an external process that HHH >>>>>>>> has no access to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right, but the program it represents, and the question is about IS. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> HHH cannot be correctly required to report on the behavior >>>>>> of an external process that it has no access to. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But it has access to the complete representation of it. >>>>> >>>> >>>> In other words you are still hungry AFTER you filled >>>> yourself with food BECAUSE you are the same person >>>> thus the change in process state DOES NOT MATTER. >>>> >>> >>> Maybe you need to stop eating so much Herring with Red Sauce, and >>> focus on some of the errors pointed out in your logic rather than >>> just ignoring them, which, in effect, just admitss that you have no >>> idea how to get out of your lies. >> >> You continue to stupidly insist that DDD specifies >> the same behavior before its simulation has been >> aborted than after it simulation has been aborted. > > And you think that HHH partial observation of the some of the behavior > of DDD affects it. > No stupid you know that I didn't say anything like that. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer