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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 18:12:45 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <v6v1ld$3pmjn$2@dont-email.me> References: <v6e7va$c4sv$1@dont-email.me> <v6jpqo$1e3jq$2@dont-email.me> <v6jqfg$1eul0$2@dont-email.me> <v6k6md$1h3a7$1@dont-email.me> <v6k9ef$1hicb$1@dont-email.me> <04b97cd4a405abead92368522fcf77070bb4fa55@i2pn2.org> <v6l24d$1oqjv$1@dont-email.me> <a267bfdf93c6fc179d09a3f62f25003f033aaff1@i2pn2.org> <v6m331$1tj30$7@dont-email.me> <6d43f24547a3b170ce6f7a99e30ec60dec589f79@i2pn2.org> <v6n8ob$24dmg$3@dont-email.me> <7f9b731b2367a2bcf2883278ee5265d30a8f82d6@i2pn2.org> <v6nau1$24jgn$2@dont-email.me> <744d42e4d9d67b49cb1844a2651cb0c350760f0c@i2pn2.org> <v6nc22$2501i$1@dont-email.me> <c784fa694b9d68f5ace1d07c9870050681268fdc@i2pn2.org> <v6ori5$2fuva$10@dont-email.me> <56314b3bac257d0fc228c26f3c8c5eec40a87215@i2pn2.org> <v6q4cj$2r7qt$1@dont-email.me> <1fbe0efc5b030be11df07a930754d90ce56525be@i2pn2.org> <v6q7vo$2rvqi$1@dont-email.me> <4ed43f5b0a3bfc3833e62746b70cd3c3dafac1e9@i2pn2.org> <v6r6b4$30qtt$1@dont-email.me> <6e2cbff6f29523d3f3674042aab172499402a43e@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 01:12:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="315e0a3cec91d4c915c12e3bad83b2c9"; logging-data="3988087"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+aS0nyxSMhibamOEv7Bie9" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vjP8u5ZC3q1ufYmYED2ZpZVR4vg= In-Reply-To: <6e2cbff6f29523d3f3674042aab172499402a43e@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3442 On 7/13/2024 6:00 PM, joes wrote: > Am Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:08:04 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> When I say the same words 150 and Richard does not see these words I >> have to know why this is. >> My aim is effective communication. I can't fix the issue unless I know >> what the issue it. > You communicate very ineffectively. You should listen to others and > respond to their questions. > >> The two possibilities Richard's ADD, and Richard is a Liar. If is is >> Richards's ADD then repeating the same sentence a dozen times seems to >> help. > 3. Richard is annoying but right, and you are a delusional spammer who > can't rephrase. > >>> You did talk of an HHH that only simulated a fixed number of steps. >>> They do not provide a correct (full) simulation. >> when 1 to ∞ steps of DDD are correctly emulated in the infinite set of >> every HHH/DDD pair and no DDD halts then we can say that DDD DOES NOT >> HALT. > DDD halts if HHH does, period. And HHH shall be a decider. > The DDD correctly emulated by HHH it its own separate process context cannot possibly halt even though it can be forced to stop running. Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non termination of HHH necessarily specifies non-halting behavior or it would never need to be aborted. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer