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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Who here understands that the last paragraph is Necessarily true? Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 18:22:24 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 64 Message-ID: <v71mjh$bp3i$1@dont-email.me> References: <v6un9t$3nufp$1@dont-email.me> <v7013v$2ccv$1@dont-email.me> <v70nt7$61d8$6@dont-email.me> <58fc6559638120b31e128fe97b5e955248afe218@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:22:25 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="13997779445f04dacae82f025877e637"; logging-data="386162"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/WHExp6hL8VdGW9ZDzvNFk" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:O4msX5x3bNgmN2h2a/3iTTTzNEI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <58fc6559638120b31e128fe97b5e955248afe218@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2662 On 7/14/2024 4:41 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/14/24 10:38 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/14/2024 3:09 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-07-13 20:15:56 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> typedef void (*ptr)(); >>>> int HHH(ptr P); >>>> >>>> void Infinite_Loop() >>>> { >>>> HERE: goto HERE; >>>> } >>>> >>>> void Infinite_Recursion() >>>> { >>>> Infinite_Recursion(); >>>> } >>>> >>>> void DDD() >>>> { >>>> HHH(DDD); >>>> } >>>> >>>> int main() >>>> { >>>> HHH(Infinite_Loop); >>>> HHH(Infinite_Recursion); >>>> HHH(DDD); >>>> } >>>> >>>> Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non >>>> termination of HHH necessarily specifies non-halting >>>> behavior or it would never need to be aborted. >>> >>> Everyone understands that DDD specifies a halting behaviour if >>> HHH(DDD) does, >> >> >> *You can comprehend this is a truism or fail to* >> *comprehend it disagreement is necessarily incorrect* >> Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non >> termination of HHH necessarily specifies non-halting >> behavior or it would never need to be aborted. >> >> Disagreeing with the above is analogous to disagreeing >> with arithmetic. >> > > But if HHH does abort int x = 5; int y = 3; if (x > y) // *before abort* { printf("x > y is necessarily true\n"); y = 2 * x; // *after abort* } -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer