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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Who here understands that the last paragraph is Necessarily true? Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 20:27:07 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 88 Message-ID: <v71ttb$crk4$1@dont-email.me> References: <v6un9t$3nufp$1@dont-email.me> <v7013v$2ccv$1@dont-email.me> <v70nt7$61d8$6@dont-email.me> <58fc6559638120b31e128fe97b5e955248afe218@i2pn2.org> <v71mjh$bp3i$1@dont-email.me> <1173a460ee95e0ca82c08abecdefc80ba86646ac@i2pn2.org> <v71okl$bvm2$1@dont-email.me> <5f6daf68f1b4ffac854d239282bc811b5b806659@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 03:27:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="13997779445f04dacae82f025877e637"; logging-data="421508"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/NHvO934qpWam2pAUmC0/C" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:qDAbj6CeZohuaugtg7C5KcNWYRc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <5f6daf68f1b4ffac854d239282bc811b5b806659@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3789 On 7/14/2024 7:30 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/14/24 7:57 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/14/2024 6:46 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 7/14/24 7:22 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 7/14/2024 4:41 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 7/14/24 10:38 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 7/14/2024 3:09 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> On 2024-07-13 20:15:56 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> typedef void (*ptr)(); >>>>>>>> int HHH(ptr P); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> void Infinite_Loop() >>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>> HERE: goto HERE; >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> void Infinite_Recursion() >>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>> Infinite_Recursion(); >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> void DDD() >>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>> HHH(DDD); >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> int main() >>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>> HHH(Infinite_Loop); >>>>>>>> HHH(Infinite_Recursion); >>>>>>>> HHH(DDD); >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non >>>>>>>> termination of HHH necessarily specifies non-halting >>>>>>>> behavior or it would never need to be aborted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Everyone understands that DDD specifies a halting behaviour if >>>>>>> HHH(DDD) does, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *You can comprehend this is a truism or fail to* >>>>>> *comprehend it disagreement is necessarily incorrect* >>>>>> Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non >>>>>> termination of HHH necessarily specifies non-halting >>>>>> behavior or it would never need to be aborted. >>>>>> >>>>>> Disagreeing with the above is analogous to disagreeing >>>>>> with arithmetic. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But if HHH does abort >>>> >>>> int x = 5; >>>> int y = 3; >>>> if (x > y) // *before abort* >>>> { >>>> printf("x > y is necessarily true\n"); >>>> y = 2 * x; // *after abort* >>>> } >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Red Hering, showin your utter stupidity. >>> >> >> In other words giving up on you was the correct thing >> to do. You have proven to be incorrigible when you >> consistently deny tautologies. >> > > No, you dont have tautologies, Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non termination of simulating termination analyzer HHH necessarily specifies non-halting behavior or it would never need to be aborted. > but LIE based on changing the meaning of words. > That is what you have been doing. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer