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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.in-chemnitz.de!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 07:55:21 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <v7367p$mjis$8@dont-email.me> References: <v644pn$29t4h$3@dont-email.me> <v6b1k4$3odj5$1@dont-email.me> <v6bf7r$3qiio$2@dont-email.me> <v6bm5v$3rj8n$1@dont-email.me> <v6bmoe$3ri0l$2@dont-email.me> <v6bnt2$3rj8n$3@dont-email.me> <v6brfj$3skuk$2@dont-email.me> <v6c3vh$3ttem$1@dont-email.me> <v6c539$3u2mj$1@dont-email.me> <v6dda0$7s8u$1@dont-email.me> <v6e67v$bbcb$4@dont-email.me> <v6gss2$t87a$1@dont-email.me> <v6gv65$to0m$1@dont-email.me> <v6h2li$ud7p$1@dont-email.me> <v6h2rm$ue7s$1@dont-email.me> <v6h3cu$ud7p$2@dont-email.me> <v6h83q$vag9$1@dont-email.me> <v6ikgb$19f5g$1@dont-email.me> <v6jgjo$1ctoi$4@dont-email.me> <v6lckp$1qi9e$1@dont-email.me> <v6m2qq$1tj30$6@dont-email.me> <60a1c2490e9bd9a5478fd173a20ed64d5eb158f9@i2pn2.org> <v6nvn8$2bn6q$1@dont-email.me> <v6oqti$2fuva$7@dont-email.me> <v6qn6k$2ubkt$1@dont-email.me> <v6r9q1$30qtt$5@dont-email.me> <v6tbge$3gegs$1@dont-email.me> <v6tqlm$3imib$5@dont-email.me> <v6vvid$24jd$1@dont-email.me> <v70mih$61d8$3@dont-email.me> <v72i9m$jne3$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="13997779445f04dacae82f025877e637"; logging-data="740956"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19GUh2xaeqdmYoyncb2WvxT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:m2NL4oBaAuuKsmzPaYqaMA848/8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v72i9m$jne3$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3171 On 7/15/2024 2:15 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-07-14 14:15:45 +0000, olcott said: >> >> *You can comprehend this is a truism or fail to* >> *comprehend it disagreement is necessarily incorrect* >> Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non >> termination of HHH necessarily specifies non-halting >> behavior or it would never need to be aborted. > > No, it is false. What the input specifies is a property of the input alone. > Whether some HHH is able to process it without looping forever is not a > property of the input and not relevant to the meaning of the input. > In other words you believe that you can correctly ignore the verified fact that DDD correctly emulated by HHH does call HHH(DDD) in recursive emulation. Donald Trump does this exact same thing with his lies about election fraud. #ElectionFraudLies Never any evidence of election fraud that could possibly change the results. Trump is just copying Hitler's "big lie" -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer