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Subject: Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:35:35 -0700
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On 2024-07-15 06:03, Andrew wrote:
> Arno Welzel wrote on Sun, 14 Jul 2024 15:25:21 +0200 :
> 
>>> You live in abject fear of every person around you, whether that's your
>>> wife, your kids, your own mom, your friends and neighbors; I don't.
>>
>> It also has nothing to do with "fear". Certain companies *REQUIRE* that
>> you protect your data, otherwise you *MUST* *NOT* work for them since
>> you show clear ignorance of best practices to protect data.
> 
> Hi Arno,
> 
> There is a lot to this story where I brought up the slums and being in
> abject fear of your own wife & kids & neighbors as a philosophical point.
> 
> If you set up a phone properly, you do not need to lock that phone down.
> It's only people who don't understand computers who lock personal phones.

Setting up a phone to lock IS setting it up properly.

Anyone can lose a phone or have it stolen.

> 
> We're going to have to understand that I had already stated that I wasn't
> talking about a corporate device but about a typical personal use device.
> 
> Also, we have to understand Carlos and others were completely ignorant that
> an Android phone works perfectly fine without any login/password.

Unless you want to send and receive messages of some kind.

> 
> It turns out that Carlos has absolutely no understanding of how phones work
> in that there is no Internet server login/password required for texting
> despite the fact he repeatedly insisted Internet is required for texting.

"no Internet server login/password" is not the same as "no login".

> 
> It's not.
> Android texting works fine without any connection to the Internet.

But still requires authentication. i.e. a login.

> 
> Carlos was unaware of that fact; and Carlos appears to still be unaware.
> There's nothing more I can do as he insists login/passwords are required.
> 
> They're not.
> But there's more to the story as this concept is a philosophical one.
> 
> It's about how to properly set up your phone for personal privacy.
> 
> Hence, we have to understand that most people don't know how to set up a
> cellphone, so *those people* will always need to add biometric gimmicks.
> 
> We also have to understand that MARKETING wants you to create accounts left
> and right, containing your personal data, which is a key failing of most
> people because they have automatic logins to things like email and banks.
> 
> We have to understand that a well set up device has no personal data
> accessible to anyone - even the purse snatcher who lives in your house.
> 
> We have to understand that if you set up your phone properly, then there's
> nothing you lose if/when it's stolen other than the physical phone itself.
> 
> And your texting will work fine whether or not you have Internet accounts.