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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: getting the most out of TWM Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:57:37 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <v7460g$snp6$3@dont-email.me> References: <6691a1ad$2$1439839$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <1_flO.54402$xL%b.19770@fx17.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:57:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5b94143486eb010a0d98f957b573fd30"; logging-data="941862"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ejUNTPUEkhmqG9vSCUoSn" User-Agent: Pan/0.158 (Avdiivka; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FfUNTnywwcHbOsyTtggLnT+UnOw= Bytes: 2573 On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:52:13 GMT, Scott Alfter wrote: > Of the three, at least xterm needs to be > installed because the last line is "exec xterm" etc. Does that mean that last xterm process ends up being the parent of all the other processes? I ask because I keep trying to make sense of this little gem from the “Unix-Haters Handbook”: Unix teaches us about the transitory nature of all things, thus ridding us of samsaric attachments and hastening enlightenment. For instance, while trying to make sense of an X initialization script someone had given me, I came across a line that looked like an ordinary Unix shell command with the term “exec” prefaced to it. Curious as to what exec might do, I typed “exec ls” to a shell window. It listed a directory, then proceeded to kill the shell and every other window I had, leaving the screen almost totally black with a tiny white inactive cursor hanging at the bottom to remind me that nothing is absolute and all things partake of their opposite. In the past I might have gotten upset or angry at such an occurrence. That was before I found enlightenment through Unix. Now, I no longer have attachments to my processes. Both processes and the disapperance of processes are illusory. The world is Unix, Unix is the world, laboring ceaslessly for the salvation of all sentient beings. I kept wondering how a process that ran under the GUI could be the parent of everything else that ran under that GUI, including obviously the window manager.