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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Olcott is proved wrong Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:55:23 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <v74ner$13bn1$2@dont-email.me> References: <RpKdnUjg8sjx0Bb7nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <2d0b6260615af8afac79ee8de57bcd45c2f2056f@i2pn2.org> <v6fk9p$mr5k$1@dont-email.me> <8bd5f2159853ff17ef81b27a85141bccc324e7d9@i2pn2.org> <v6fkrb$mr5k$2@dont-email.me> <v6fl9a$mr5k$3@dont-email.me> <v6huj5$12ktu$2@dont-email.me> <7387a77d06e4b00a1c27a447e2744a4f10b25e49@i2pn2.org> <v6i08a$12ktu$4@dont-email.me> <c81e1794259853dfd7724900ebfab484679615be@i2pn2.org> <v6m42j$1tj30$9@dont-email.me> <v6o0an$2bqh7$1@dont-email.me> <v6oo1j$2fuva$2@dont-email.me> <v72no8$kinb$1@dont-email.me> <v73adp$mjis$19@dont-email.me> <359671d4a94f2caa82dc3c4884daa2ff73396a8d@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 04:55:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="37be9b12bf7e2996d459c5c7ef9a1f9b"; logging-data="1158881"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX183sEPGgmuoi+BWDF2Dqh/W" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:i6vPxnonrJgrqDm+gqdghlKWN+w= In-Reply-To: <359671d4a94f2caa82dc3c4884daa2ff73396a8d@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3820 On 7/15/2024 9:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/15/24 10:06 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/15/2024 3:48 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-07-11 13:51:47 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> On 7/11/2024 2:07 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2024-07-10 13:58:42 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 7/8/24 8:28 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Every expression of language that cannot be proven >>>>>>>> or refuted by any finite or infinite sequence of >>>>>>>> truth preserving operations connecting it to its >>>>>>>> meaning specified as a finite expression of language >>>>>>>> is rejected. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tarski's x like Godel's G are know to be true by an infinite >>>>>>> sequence of truth preserving operations. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Every time that you affirm your above error you prove >>>>>> yourself to be a liar. >>>>> >>>>> It is quite obvious that you are the liar. You have not shown any >>>>> error >>>>> above. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Richard said the infinite proofs derive knowledge >>>> and that infinite proofs never derive knowledge. >>> >>> That is included in my "not shown above", in particular the word >>> "proofs". >>> >> >> On 7/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> > >> > Tarski's x like Godel's G are know to be true by an >> > infinite sequence of truth preserving operations. >> > >> >> We cannot know that anything is true by an infinite >> sequence of truth preserving operations as Richard >> falsely claims above. > > You are just mixing up your words because you don't understd that > wrores. amnd just making yourself into a LIAR. > > Our KNOWLEDGE that the statement is true, comes from a finite proof in > the meta system. Thus zero knowledge comes from the infinite proof You spelled "known" incorrectly as "know" yet claimed that knowledge comes form an infinite proof. You can't even pay attention to your own words ??? -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer