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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: First BBC live football broadcast (22-1-1927) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 00:31:25 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <v757kd$15s3q$3@dont-email.me> References: <uoldkr$m4j5$1@dont-email.me> <uom2q4$pn4k$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 09:31:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d695b4b9a5f89d024b4108b03724de16"; logging-data="1241210"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19OlNoWEoCjs4yVz82jSu5kN/657PuH11Q=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:56W28Z0rN7HRl8InckAWGlK9yxY= In-Reply-To: <uom2q4$pn4k$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2805 On 1/22/2024 7:49 AM, Antonio Marques wrote: > Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote: >> For this occasion (Arsenal v Sheffield United at Highbury stadium, >> London), the BBC had devised a grid dividing the football pitch into 8 >> squares, which was published in the _Radio Times_. The chief >> commentator, Henry Blythe Thornhill Wakelam ("Teddy"), would describe >> the action, and an assistant would call out a number indicating which >> part of the field the ball was in. >> >> Example: "now up field (7)...a pretty pass (5,8)..." >> >> Eventually they realized that fans could easily visualize the playing >> field, and a single commentator could deliver all the necessary >> information without the numbers. >> >> This kind of live description belongs to what Koenraad Kuiper calls >> "formulaic genres" (the title of his book, Springer, 2009). The speaker >> has to respond to sometimes rapidly changing real events, and makes use >> of ready-made elements and sequences to ensure fluency. Kuiper's >> original interests were in horse-race calling and auctioneering. They used "now up field (7)...a pretty pass (5,8)..." for several games? it's Odd that they didn't use Chess's (A-H, 1-8) or combination of (Number + Right, Left, Center) > > In Portugal it gets really annoying that, maybe to avoid repetition, maybe > to fill up space, maybe to slow the rhythm, sports broadcasts don’t ever > refer to things by their names, but by multi-word paraphrases. ‘The team > from the capital city of furniture’, ‘the spherical (object)’, ‘the > norwegian forward’, etc. Is that a thing in other countries too? > ‘the spherical (object)’ ------ good one!