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From: "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
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Subject: Re: Langevin's paradox again
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 13:02:53 +0200
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Den 15.07.2024 22:39, skrev Richard Hachel:
> Le 15/07/2024 à 22:13, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
>>
>> Even a child would be able to calculate that when
>> the proton is moving around the 27 km circuit,
>> and it passes by the same point every slightly more
>> than 90 μs, then its real speed is slightly less than
>> 27000m/0.000009s = 3000000000 m/s

> No one has ever said otherwise.

Yes, the "No one"  Richard Hachel has said otherwise.

| Den 27.03.2024 07:23, skrev Richard Hachel:
|> Le 26/03/2024 à 21:45, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
|>>
|>> You are claiming that the protons are going around the ≈ 27 km ring
|>> ≈ 78 million times per second.
|>> The real value is ≈ 11.25 thousand times per second.
|>
|> CERN physicists are doing their job.
|> We have accustomed them to working at classic relativistic speed.
|> So it makes sense that they find the speed they expect.
|> I tell them that the proton rotates 78 million times per second,

So Richard Hachel has said that when the proton is moving
around the 27 km circuit, and is measured to pass by the same
point every ≈ 90 μs, then the proton has really made 6933
turns around the circuit during the ≈ 90 μs, which means that
the proton passes the point every ≈ 12.8 ns, and the speed of
the proton is 6927⋅c and not slightly less than c.

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I have a friend who believes in the theory that
invisible blue fairies exist.

Another person I know believes in the theory that there
are invisible protons which make 6933 cycles around
the LHC while visible protons make one cycle.

Both theories are unfalsifiable and therefore no valid theories.


BTW Richard.
We know that invisible fairies are blue,
but what is the colour of your invisible protons?

-- 
Paul, having fun

https://paulba.no/