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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Richard can't pay attention to his won words Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:34:32 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 82 Message-ID: <v75st8$19j7l$1@dont-email.me> References: <RpKdnUjg8sjx0Bb7nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <2d0b6260615af8afac79ee8de57bcd45c2f2056f@i2pn2.org> <v6fk9p$mr5k$1@dont-email.me> <8bd5f2159853ff17ef81b27a85141bccc324e7d9@i2pn2.org> <v6fkrb$mr5k$2@dont-email.me> <v6fl9a$mr5k$3@dont-email.me> <v6huj5$12ktu$2@dont-email.me> <7387a77d06e4b00a1c27a447e2744a4f10b25e49@i2pn2.org> <v6i08a$12ktu$4@dont-email.me> <c81e1794259853dfd7724900ebfab484679615be@i2pn2.org> <v6m42j$1tj30$9@dont-email.me> <v6o0an$2bqh7$1@dont-email.me> <v6oo1j$2fuva$2@dont-email.me> <v72no8$kinb$1@dont-email.me> <v73adp$mjis$19@dont-email.me> <359671d4a94f2caa82dc3c4884daa2ff73396a8d@i2pn2.org> <v74ner$13bn1$2@dont-email.me> <d72aa54790eaa53cbe11dfccca12c67249d0d9f6@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:34:32 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="37be9b12bf7e2996d459c5c7ef9a1f9b"; logging-data="1363189"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+9DefNZ402GsoCpRvnJJeW" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:eC5VaocFXlKjsv/uRCzhDgafUFg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <d72aa54790eaa53cbe11dfccca12c67249d0d9f6@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 4511 On 7/16/2024 6:53 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/15/24 10:55 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/15/2024 9:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 7/15/24 10:06 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 7/15/2024 3:48 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2024-07-11 13:51:47 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/11/2024 2:07 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> On 2024-07-10 13:58:42 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 7/8/24 8:28 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Every expression of language that cannot be proven >>>>>>>>>> or refuted by any finite or infinite sequence of >>>>>>>>>> truth preserving operations connecting it to its >>>>>>>>>> meaning specified as a finite expression of language >>>>>>>>>> is rejected. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tarski's x like Godel's G are know to be true by an infinite >>>>>>>>> sequence of truth preserving operations. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Every time that you affirm your above error you prove >>>>>>>> yourself to be a liar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is quite obvious that you are the liar. You have not shown any >>>>>>> error >>>>>>> above. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Richard said the infinite proofs derive knowledge >>>>>> and that infinite proofs never derive knowledge. >>>>> >>>>> That is included in my "not shown above", in particular the word >>>>> "proofs". >>>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Tarski's x like Godel's G are know to be true by an >>>> > infinite sequence of truth preserving operations. >>>> > >>>> >>>> We cannot know that anything is true by an infinite >>>> sequence of truth preserving operations as Richard >>>> falsely claims above. >>> >>> You are just mixing up your words because you don't understd that >>> wrores. amnd just making yourself into a LIAR. >>> >>> Our KNOWLEDGE that the statement is true, comes from a finite proof >>> in the meta system. >> >> Thus zero knowledge comes from the infinite proof >> You spelled "known" incorrectly as "know" yet claimed >> that knowledge comes form an infinite proof. >> >> You can't even pay attention to your own words ??? >> > > There is no "infinite proof". > On 7/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote: *know to be true* *know to be true* *know to be true* *know to be true* *know to be true* by an infinite sequence of truth preserving operations. Nothing can ever be known to be true by an infinite sequence of truth preserving operations. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer