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From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl>
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Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is Correctly rejected as
 non-halting V2
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:27:18 +0200
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Op 16.jul.2024 om 15:54 schreef olcott:
> On 7/16/2024 3:23 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:03:30 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 7/15/2024 3:58 PM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:52:34 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 7/15/2024 9:04 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>> Am Mon, 15 Jul 2024 07:23:57 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>> On 7/15/2024 3:59 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>> Am Sun, 14 Jul 2024 22:35:03 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/14/2024 10:02 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non termination of
>>>>>>>>> simulating termination analyzer HHH necessarily specifies
>>>>>>>>> non-halting behavior or it would never need to be aborted.
>>>>>>>> It's just that the input HHH halts and does not need to be aborted.
>>>>>>> At the point that it is aborted it did need to be aborted
>>>>>> Because it hadn't halted yet?
>>>>> Because HHH has seen a repeating state that proves that DDD correctly
>>>>> emulated by HHH cannot possibly ever stop running unless aborted.
>>>> Which state is it that repeats forever?
>>> *It had never been which state DOES repeat forever*
>>> *It has always been which state WOULD repeat forever if not aborted*
>> Well then, which state of HHH would repeat forever?
>>
> 
> *You still have it wrong*.
> It is not "which state of HHH would repeat forever?"
> It is: Which state of HHH would repeat forever if not aborted?

But HHH aborts, so the unless is misleading. Dreaming of an HHH that 
does not abort is irrelevant.
Therefore, the question is:
Well then, which state of HHH would repeat forever?