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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Python <python@invalid.org> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Le_pi=C3=A8ge_parfait_=28the_perfect_trap=29?= Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 14:52:02 +0200 Organization: CCCP Lines: 56 Message-ID: <v78epi$1pkt8$5@dont-email.me> References: <FER4K03RCuXsBiIlfVNSgR0vilQ@jntp> <v71c86$a0te$1@dont-email.me> <fCidXYmBeggYm31OO1-5v64V0S8@jntp> <v736bn$mo0c$1@dont-email.me> <yX3K1wOobcIp1KzCuRuRL0Htcvg@jntp> <v73otr$ptku$1@dont-email.me> <ch2jfWaArdOfK3yzPPitxq9HA-A@jntp> <v75ner$1828i$3@dont-email.me> <Bd8mOA-8nINExuba8PnEg4CG9rI@jntp> <v76fvs$1d5jc$1@dont-email.me> <y2JkxT04PJ9pNpvNVb0oXaWVKOw@jntp> <v76i7r$1d5jc$3@dont-email.me> <lfp9aaFkr1mU2@mid.individual.net> <v78dem$1r5au$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 14:52:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="11923cb29fc9016b5182303cf2a03872"; logging-data="1889192"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Y1DZXheX7WMGrt2kwumj5" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:7XemMdT943aCswdyC8lBQIXMPZ8= In-Reply-To: <v78dem$1r5au$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3352 Le 17/07/2024 à 14:34, Paul.B.Andersen a écrit : > Den 17.07.2024 09:14, skrev Thomas Heger: >> Am Dienstag000016, 16.07.2024 um 21:43 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen: >>> >>> There is but one Special Theory of Relativity. >> >> No, since actually Einstein's 'On the electrodynamics of moving >> bodies' is usually called SRT. > > Of course. This IS the Special Theory of Relativity. > >> >> But there have been several other attempts to the same problem. >> >> One stems from Herman Minkowski and one from Herny Poincaré. > > Minkowski introduced spacetime and the geometric approach > with metric and proper time. > It is a reformulation of Einstein's theory, but it is > still The Special Theory of Relativity. > > Einstein adopted this view, and the very first equation > in Einstein's "The Foundation of General Relativity" > is the metric for the Special Theory of Relativity. > > https://paulba.no/paper/Foundation_of_GR.pdf > § 4 equation (1) > >> >> Also the present mainstream consensus about this subject can be called >> 'SRT', but is different to what Einstein wrote. > > It is still the same one and only Special Theory of Relativity, > even if the math has evolved since 1905. > But there is nothing you can calculate from the metric, > which you can't calculate from the Lorentz transform in > "On the electrodynamics of moving bodies". > >> >> There are also a number of other versions, which were created by >> people of minor importance, like e.g. also people participating in >> this forum. >> >> What exactly 'SRT' is, that is not cast in stone, but is a subject you >> could debate. >> ... > > The Special Theory of Relativity is precisely defined, > and there is no debate of what it is. > (Among reasonable knowledgeable people.) > Both Thomas and Richard are insanely demented. But at least Thomas is not allowed to practice medicine.