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On 7/16/2024 8:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 7/16/2024 8:48 PM, John B. wrote:
>>
>> Yet more proof that Frankie doesn't know what he is 
>> talking about. A
>> shotgun fires a spray of pellets and certainly wouldn't be 
>> the best
>> choice in a case where the "Bad Guys" are close to the 
>> victims as
>> seems very likely in the above reference.
> 
> Argue with Andrew about that. He was the one who originally 
> posted that a shotgun would be much better for home defense 
> than an AR.
> 
> Beyond that, I disagree with you on the applicability of a 
> shotgun to these specific cases. But again, I'll let Andrew 
> explain, if he cares to.
> 

As with concurrent discussions, 'optimal', 'adequate' and 
'best' are inherently subjective.

My statement is based on the general consensus among 
firearms mavens. Typical assessment here:

https://tacticalgear.com/experts/best-guns-for-home-defense

1 through four are 12ga shotguns, then 9mm, .357 and .45ACP 
pistols.

Eighth is an FN pistol in 5.7 which is a NATO round.

#9 is an .223 AR, #10 an AK in 7.62 (.30cal)

but there are many quite similar conclusions.

I agree that a rifle is less than optimal, but adequate. 
..223 or .30 cal is up to you.

That article, as most, does not discuss what's behind your 
target (beyond/through walls, for example) and in many 
situations that is a severe risk factor for unintended damage.
-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971