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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is Correctly rejected as
 non-halting V2
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 10:02:01 -0500
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On 7/16/2024 1:06 PM, joes wrote:
> Am Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:54:10 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 7/16/2024 3:23 AM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:03:30 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 7/15/2024 3:58 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:52:34 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 7/15/2024 9:04 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Mon, 15 Jul 2024 07:23:57 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 7/15/2024 3:59 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am Sun, 14 Jul 2024 22:35:03 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/14/2024 10:02 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non termination of
>>>>>>>>>> simulating termination analyzer HHH necessarily specifies
>>>>>>>>>> non-halting behavior or it would never need to be aborted.
>>>>>>>>> It's just that the input HHH halts and does not need to be
>>>>>>>>> aborted.
>>>>>>>> At the point that it is aborted it did need to be aborted
>>>>>>> Because it hadn't halted yet?
>>>>>> Because HHH has seen a repeating state that proves that DDD
>>>>>> correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly ever stop running unless
>>>>>> aborted.
>>>>> Which state is it that repeats forever?
>>>> *It had never been which state DOES repeat forever*
>>>> *It has always been which state WOULD repeat forever if not aborted*
>>> Well then, which state of HHH would repeat forever?
>> It is not "which state of HHH would repeat forever?"
>> It is: Which state of HHH would repeat forever if not aborted?

> Those two are the same, but different to what you said above.
> HHH does not repeat forever because it makes sure to stop simulating
> anything that does.
> 

I proved that they are not the same in the part that
you skipped.

>>>> Infinite_Loop() doesn't even repeat forever because it is aborted.
>>> By itself it does.
> 

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