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Path: ...!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: old instructions, Continuations Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 19:19:26 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Taughannock Networks Message-ID: <v795fu$5ef$1@gal.iecc.com> References: <v6tbki$3g9rg$1@dont-email.me> <sVSlO.45037$BYv6.44005@fx09.iad> <cb26ff16276239b273de1a6b4d306326@www.novabbs.org> <EgUlO.60668$xL%b.20040@fx17.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 19:19:26 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="5583"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" In-Reply-To: <v6tbki$3g9rg$1@dont-email.me> <sVSlO.45037$BYv6.44005@fx09.iad> <cb26ff16276239b273de1a6b4d306326@www.novabbs.org> <EgUlO.60668$xL%b.20040@fx17.iad> Cleverness: some X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine) Bytes: 2320 Lines: 37 According to Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net>: >>I suspect that as compute power grew, the kinds of things we wanted out >>of EDIT changed. >> >>negative numbers printed in red >>negative numbers surrounded with parens (-123.45) >>decimal point and comma LOCAL selection >>NaN >>INFINITY > >EDIT/EDT instructions were designed from the start for >COBOL fixed point arithmetic. No Nan, No Infinities. Yes, but don't forget RPG. It was never fashionable but there sure was a lot of it. Still is on whatever they call AS/400 aka System i these days. >COBOL had verbs to assign the correct characters as >the decimal point and thousands separator DECIMAL POINT IS COMMA. >The problem is that the modern languages don't have >a modern concept of a PICture clause. An instruction >to format based on a printf-like format string could >be useful, I suspect, but the die area is probably more >useful as cache. More important, libraries are basically free now. Every program links to megabytes of shard libraries and nobody cares. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly