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From: vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
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Subject: Re: technology discussion =?UTF-8?B?4oaS?= does the world need a
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 22:23:33 -0000 (UTC)
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On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 18:01:21 +0200, David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
wrote in <v7be8i$2g3q4$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 18/07/2024 15:00, Bart wrote:
>> On 18/07/2024 13:41, David Brown wrote:

[snip]

>>> You are trying to be too smart here, IMHO - the compiler's job is to 
>>> let the programmer be smart.  It's always nice to have optimisations, 
>>> but not at the expense of correctness.
>> 
>> That's an odd remark from a devotee of gcc. Your usual attitude is to 
>> let the programmer write code in the most natural manner, and let a 
>> smart optimising compiler sort it out.
> 
> Touché :-)
> 
> Compilers can get smarter once you have them simple and correct.  /Too/ 
> smart - generating efficient but sometimes incorrect code - is not helpful.
> 

I was a radioman in the USCG in the days of yore, where we would strive
for "secure, reliable, rapid" communications...in that order.

The same epithets could be applied to software.

-- 
-v