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From: Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl>
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Subject: Israel, hard necked, refuses the truth, chooses death.
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 11:15:13 -0000 (UTC)
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title: BEN SHAPIRO AND HIS DANGEROUS FRIENDS
source: Rabbi Yaron Reuv
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqxkbV2dcUo

  Comment. It first posted, then was deleted for unknown reason and by
  an unknown actor. The video in question mentioned that the Rabbi felt
  forced to speak out against people who distort the Torah (of which he
  is one, but they can't believe that of course), and so following the
  same logic I was morally pressured to do the same. Then it got
  deleted. You realize how it is demotivating to be treated with this
  cold shoulder, already since 2008 ? 

  You make a big mistake if you read what I write, and you think it is
  the loose and chaotic ramblings of a fool, becaues you project your
  own shallowness and mental chaos.  By teh time I have argued the
  whole thing out to the last details, I could have written 50 pages,
  and evidently nobody is going to sit through that because ... they
  don't even care. So I keep it shorter.  It takes a fool, a child,
  to accept something like the prozbul as authentic. Nobody can take it
  serious. I press you on it, letting you know it's been noted, and you
  just flat out pretend it's fine by neglecting a correction. You don't
  have to say why, we all know it is a lie, there is no why.

  There is merely stupidity, an ill will, a rejection of the truth, of
  HKB'H, of your job, and that's it. You want cars and pizzas, not Peace
  and truth. You want parties, alcohol and idolatry, above your land,
  freedom and tranquility. You choose the thrill of war, the fight, over
  the calm of the safety which the Torah would bring you. I understand,
  and it might even be good for you not to answer me, because you would
  become guilty of more lies and explicit lies. Nevertheless, it is still
  cold and careless, dumb and a betrayal, for you to not acknowledge the
  truth, to misdirect your children away from the Torah and HKB'H, to be
  disloyal, and set yourself up for another punishment, 7 times worse than
  the last time. Why so bad this time ? Look around, the world as it was 
  is over. An assault on a city isn't about a few scorched beam, and
  blood flowing into the soil, it can be a number of nuclear bombs which
  kill everything in the area, down to the microbes, and leave the site
  uninabitable for decades or more.

  You think because of your confusion and the current moment, that you
  are on top, but the lies never stay on top in the end. You think you
  can ignore my pleas, but what seems to be powerless today to you, it
  will in the end overwhelm you and dominate your mind. If you care(d)
  for the truth, it will be a sense of victory: finally the truth has
  won, you have won, we have won against the criminals. If you do not
  care for the truth, you may be left with shame and disgrace about your
  past behavior.

  When you are hunted down and massacred by the gentiles in numbers you
  don't believe are possible, put on trains to death camps all over again,
  mercilessly assaulted in the Zionist Rebel State and cut down by wild
  people without mercy (may heaven prevent it if it is not necessary to
  have it occur for you to come back to the truth), and you can't seem
  to get any help, then think of what I wrote here, and your cold
  shoulder and your complete disinterest in the truth. When I needed
  your help, your help to help you that is (!), you didn't come, you
  didn't care, you looked the other way. If you had cared, it could have
  saved you, even save the gentiles as well, or many of them. You didn't
  care, and then end up under people who don't care either. o
  
  Why would I continue to try with a people like you ? You laugh to
  yourself "hahaha, who does he think he is" ? This is our problem
  exactly: idolatry. You look to the person. START CARING FOR THE TRUTH
  FOR ONCE, IDOLATROUS ISRAEL. What are you doing in 770 HQ Chabad, what
  is happening there ? I saw the video, it made me cry (literally, it
  made me cry). How can this mess be Redeemed ? It is absolutely
  forbidden to idolize the Rebbe that way, and also the actual
  'moshiach' absolutely forbidden. Only HKB'H gets the honor of being
  bowed to. 

  We humans, we are just humans, not that different from one another. Did
  Moshe Rabbeinu bow to the Pharao ? Moshe Rabbeinu killed the guards
  of the Pharao, when he saw an injustice. That's a man ! Wow. Yet even
  he may not be idolized. He could not enter Eretz Yisroel, because of
  the idolatry of the people, and his grave is unknown, because of the
  idolatry of the people. What idolatry ? You put so-called Sages over
  the Prophets, you put Rambam and Hillel over Moshe Rabbeinu and King
  David, you do whatever you want and when someone tells you: it's a
  lie, do Teshuvah, return to your God, you pretend not to hear it.

  I don't say that fixing these issues of law will necessarily fix
  everything. You still have to live with heart and care for each other,
  which of course is also the law. If however you did the entire Torah,
  then your God has told you that he will fix the rest for you. It is
  worth a try. It is the truth anyway. Even if you are a fool and you
  want markets in land and predatory finance capital to enslave the
  masses, you should still have the honesty to say to someone who wishes
  to do the Torah: the prozbul is, of course, not the Torah, the debt is
  nullified, it is as obvious as it could be. Open rebellion against
  HKB'H, that's what the prozbul is. The answer was: a burning Temple,
  which to this day never rose again.

  Then we have all the lawlessness that Rabbi Reuven correctly points
  to. I have yet to find a point he isn't right about, except maybe that
  he puts too much stock in his own Rabbi and I fear this is getting
  close to idolatry or is a general attitude within Israel which may
  lead to the scenes we saw in 770 HQ Chabad. To be honest when I see
  some "dudes" talking about M.Friedman coming on a youtube with them,
  and they seem to think they are Jewish, I simply do not see it. Are
  these "Ehrliche Jüden" ? Are these the righteous, the caring, the well
  disciplined ? There is hundreds of guys like that running around here
  in my city, where there is barely a Jew left (Chas veShalom). What's
  the difference ? Return Israel ... return while you are still alive.

  Reply:

You need to return to the honest truth of the Torah, because every
time you break the Torah, you create disunity among yourselves, and the
gentiles are copying it and making it much worse, the gentiles copy the
worst version they can find, and make it much worse, besides all the
wrongs they do already - and a few good things also they do, but not
like the Torah.

Examples. You klal Yisroel stopped the Jubilee, and there where some
fake reasons given. When the Jubilee is not done, the control over
land centralizes, and this destabilizes the economy, it impoverishes
people on the one hand and it makes the few richer and then always
richer. While there where forms of right to land with the Nations also,
they all are non-stop selling land and refuse to acknowledge the right
to land. It doesn't matter if you are a gentile or a Jew, the right to
land is essential in both cases. Today with all the technology it is
_even more essential_ ! I can go on for pages about it if you need.

The prozbul it destroyed the 7th year debt cancellation of the Torah. This
again makes the rich richer, it takes a control over them away. It makes
the poor settle in their poverty. If they are landless too, that is two
slaps in the face, from their own brothers. You could call it baseless
hatred, and that's what I call it. What do the Nations do ? They also at
times have some bankruptcy laws, which is good. However, then we have
the Versaille treaty, we have now mountains of debt which destabilize
the entire world, and soon we have World War 3 and a second (worse)
holocaust on Jewish people as the consequences of not nullifying the
debt. It isn't hard to see either how the poverty stricken masses get
upset in Yerushalayim way back when, and they start supporting all kinds
of separate movements, because the Temple is corrupt and makes up their
own laws, and therefore so can they, and they do. The unity of the Torah
is broken.

Then we have Shabbos ! It is a good example also, because the Rabbis claim
that a day ends when there are 3 stars out, but there doesn't seem to
be any reason for that. They did severe damage to the Shabbos this way,
allowing work on its evening. Candle lighting seems to soothe the nerves
because you think it becomes light, but it's not the next day (Friday
evening). Yes, it's a nice ritual, but it's not a day of rest. What do
the gentiles do: they completely shift the day to whatever they want,
and keep messing with it as well. Nowadays grocery shops are open on
Sunday, and we see again how lawless the idolators are.

I sometimes argue it like so: 2+4=6, and only 6. 8 - 5 = 3, and only
3. Once you settle on the truth, the answer is one. Even then there
is endless facets to the wealth and depth that is the truth. The wrong
however, can be anything, and therefore it fractures people. When you say:
3 stars the Sun comes out it is the next day, and there is no bases for
it in the Torah: another can say, 2 stars, another can say, 50 stars,
another can say: Sun down, another can say: the night sleep (which is
what I say), and another says: it's completely another day. Once you
are there and everyone is messing with the law, everything makes it up
as they go, and because they all start deviating in their own desired
direction, it endlessly shatters and splinters into smaller and smaller
movements. This is how you loose your Nation, your Sovereignty, your
Temple if you want to put it that way (and perhaps you should).

Therefore I ask please, start doing Teshuvah for the prozbul. Once
you have done that, you can maybe do Teshuvah for other problems as
well, and who knows, the Redemption might suddenly exist around you,
may it be speedily in our days. You _cannot_ put Rambam above HKB'H,
and it also says as everyone knows: the Torah is not in heaven, it is
not over the sea, you don't need to ask someone to explain it to you,
etc. At some point of law breaking and messed up phony law, you have to
retreat and realize: we need to go back to the truth. Return to your God,
and your God returns to you, as he has promised. Have a guten Shabbos.

You don't really have a choice, even if you can delay your Teshuvah
by your own choice. The truth is the truth. If you want to live in
the truth, you don't have a choice. The lie is the lie, and will be
exposed, is being exposed. It is Game Over for humans, the madness and
the stupidity cannot go on with this level of technology (my opinion
I guess, but not only me). RETURN (sigh). It is idolatry to put Rambam
above HKB'H, or Hillel the Elder above HKB'H. The law is clear, there
is no doubt. The loan is cancelled, end of that story. Anyone who avoids
the 7th year debt nullification with a prozbul, is committing fraud and
crime, perhaps organized crime involving pretentious Rabbis, and needs
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