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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Continuations Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 11:28:17 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <v7dikh$2vavh$1@dont-email.me> References: <v6tbki$3g9rg$1@dont-email.me> <47689j5gbdg2runh3t7oq2thodmfkalno6@4ax.com> <v71vqu$gomv$9@dont-email.me> <116d9j5651mtjmq4bkjaheuf0pgpu6p0m8@4ax.com> <f8c6c5b5863ecfc1ad45bb415f0d2b49@www.novabbs.org> <7u7e9j5dthm94vb2vdsugngjf1cafhu2i4@4ax.com> <0f7b4deb1761f4c485d1dc3b21eb7cb3@www.novabbs.org> <v78soj$1tn73$1@dont-email.me> <4bbc6af7baab612635eef0de4847ba5b@www.novabbs.org> <v792kn$1v70t$1@dont-email.me> <ef12aa647464a3ebe3bd208c13a3c40c@www.novabbs.org> <v79b56$20oq8$1@dont-email.me> <v7ahnf$2an0d$1@dont-email.me> <20240718193803.00004176@yahoo.com> <v7bi3c$2gk81$1@dont-email.me> <20240718202843.00001dd0@yahoo.com> <v7bo2d$2hv4o$1@dont-email.me> <20240718224853.000046e1@yahoo.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 13:28:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6588ad2f0afe4174f58c0e61d8aff649"; logging-data="3124209"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ARbYc1845vWFQP1HC3GD1nyL30ivDu5s=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:de0wouApHQyqqinI1XCMJBujMkg= Bytes: 3102 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> schrieb: > On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 18:48:45 -0000 (UTC) > Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > >> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> schrieb: >> > On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 17:06:52 -0000 (UTC) >> > Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >> >> It does work far away from the equilibrium (which is the point). >> > >> > But how far? >> > Does it work for EA/RT outside of, say [-10:+12] ? >> >> Ea is almost always positive; if if was negative, it would mean that >> a reaction is is slowed down by increasing temperature (and by this >> don't mean the reverse reaction). > > In the branch of physical chemistry that I was taught before switching > to completely different profession, that's not that rare. > For example, when temperature grows from 1500 degrees toward 1550 > the transfer of phosphorus from molten steel to slag decelerates > greatly. Do you happen to recall if that process was limited by thermodynamic equilibrium, by mass transfer or indeed by a chemical reaction? To me, that would sound like maybe one of the first two, but knowing nothing about this, I am now firmly speculating :-) >> And to make sense, -Ea/(RT) is always less then zero. Reasonable >> example: Ea = 30 kJ/mol, R=8.314, T=600 K gives you -6.01 as the >> argument of the exponent, so the term is then ~ 0.002444 . > > So, something like [-10:0] ? Activation energies can also be 180 kJ/mol, but I don't really know the range that people might want to calculate these values.