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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is Correctly rejected as
 non-halting V2
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 09:08:24 -0500
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On 7/19/2024 2:42 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-07-17 15:02:01 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 7/16/2024 1:06 PM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:54:10 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 7/16/2024 3:23 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:03:30 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 7/15/2024 3:58 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:52:34 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 7/15/2024 9:04 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am Mon, 15 Jul 2024 07:23:57 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/15/2024 3:59 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Sun, 14 Jul 2024 22:35:03 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/14/2024 10:02 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non 
>>>>>>>>>>>> termination of
>>>>>>>>>>>> simulating termination analyzer HHH necessarily specifies
>>>>>>>>>>>> non-halting behavior or it would never need to be aborted.
>>>>>>>>>>> It's just that the input HHH halts and does not need to be
>>>>>>>>>>> aborted.
>>>>>>>>>> At the point that it is aborted it did need to be aborted
>>>>>>>>> Because it hadn't halted yet?
>>>>>>>> Because HHH has seen a repeating state that proves that DDD
>>>>>>>> correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly ever stop running unless
>>>>>>>> aborted.
>>>>>>> Which state is it that repeats forever?
>>>>>> *It had never been which state DOES repeat forever*
>>>>>> *It has always been which state WOULD repeat forever if not aborted*
>>>>> Well then, which state of HHH would repeat forever?
>>>> It is not "which state of HHH would repeat forever?"
>>>> It is: Which state of HHH would repeat forever if not aborted?
>>
>>> Those two are the same, but different to what you said above.
>>> HHH does not repeat forever because it makes sure to stop simulating
>>> anything that does.
>>>
>>
>> I proved that they are not the same in the part that
>> you skipped.
> 
> Wat makes you think any part was skipped?
> 

You skipped the part at the bottom.
Infinite_Loop() repeats until aborted.

When we use your incorrect reasoning we would conclude
that Infinite_Loop() is not an infinite loop because it
only repeats until aborted and is aborted.

> You have not presented any proof in any part, skipped or not.
> 
>>>>>> Infinite_Loop() doesn't even repeat forever because it is aborted.
>>>>> By itself it does.
> 
> 

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