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On 7/19/2024 3:54 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 16:31:14 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/19/2024 4:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 7/19/2024 3:12 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>> On 7/19/2024 11:35 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> On 7/19/2024 10:14 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/19/2024 8:55 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Politically disfavored citizens do hard time for 'trespass'*:
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/-right-thing-jan-6-rioter-says-sentenced-25-years-prison-rcna104934
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "... she believed she had the right to climb over broken glass to
>>>>>> enter the Capitol ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As someone said here recently, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> She did not break the glass.
>>>>>
>>>>> Capitol Security held the doors open for citizens exercising their
>>>>> 1st Amendment rights to assemble and petition for redress.
>>>>
>>>> I see, is that why the "peaceful petitioners" decided to smash the
>>>> windows out of the doors? I'm struggling to see why the "vandalism"
>>>> was necessary if the capital police politely held the doors open for
>>>> those "peaceful petitioners",
>>>>
>>>> https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/211228144847-09-jan-6-capitol-unf-restricted.jpg?q=w_1576,c_fill
>>>>
>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/presto/2021/01/06/USAT/f5253d0f-3d53-416d-881b-7d1a34c52fff-GettyImages-1294942197.jpg?width=660&height=440&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp
>>>>
>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/presto/2021/12/28/USAT/b54ed3a4-53fa-4112-b68d-fe0adb474c94-AP21006809982539.jpg?width=1320&height=880&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp
>>>>
>>>> I guess this image is those very polite officers holding the door open
>>>> for peaceful petitioners
>>>>
>>>> https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/01/05/ap21133832328925_slide-6b6b89838b8fb9e340b428c8030bedf4ea3e845b.jpg?s=2000&c=85&f=webp
>>>>
>>>> let alone why those polite police felt the need to draw their weapons
>>>> and fire them.
>>>>
>>>> https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/211228143850-18-jan-6-capitol-unf.jpg?q=w_1576,c_fill
>>>>
>>>> Sorry andrew, but the narrative that it was a peaceful protest is
>>>> complete unmitigated bullshit (read: a fucking lie).
>>>>
>>>> What's more disappointing is that you're intelligent enough to
>>>> understand what really happened, unlike a certain other deluded
>>>> kool-aide drinker in this forum.
>>>>
>>>> It was an attempted insurrection. There was no "peaceful redress"
>>>> intended. The rioters stormed the capital with the intent of
>>>> preventing the peaceful transition of power through violence and
>>>> intimidation. Those who were jailed for it didn't get nearly what the
>>>> deserved. It was treason, nothing less.
>>>>
>>>>> No one's defending felony assault, but most of the 6 January
>>>>> prisoners did no such thing.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, you're doing just that, trying to claim it was a peaceful
>>>> protest to address a grievance. It was nothing of the kind, and your
>>>> kowtowing to the magatard mob is very specifically condoning felonious
>>>> assault.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I was not clear.
>>>
>>> No one's defending felony assault, but most of the 6
>>> January prisoners did no such thing.
>>>
>>> Does that help?
>>
>> No. Even if they were not assaulting security guards or smashing
>> windows, anyone partipating in that crowd and entering where they were
>> clearly forbidden to enter was taking part in a riot. And their
>> objective was clear: To prevent the peaceful transfer of power that was
>> intended by the constitution, and properly done every prior time without
>> exception.
> 
> It didn't help that they were they preferred the "wrong" party.
> 
> https://nypost.com/2021/06/20/hundreds-of-nyc-rioters-looters-have-charges-dropped/

Much 'reportage' relied on Ms Pelosi's unorthodox* 'January 
6 Committee' press releases. That committee suppressed most 
Capitol security camera video, some of which was released 
much later.

Another example: Mr Nutcase got 4-1/2 years (!!)  but 
committed no assault nor vandalism (being nuts is not in 
itself a crime yet). Some video here:
https://nypost.com/2023/03/06/jan-6-footage-shows-cops-bringing-qanon-shaman-to-senate-floor/

Were crimes committed? Yes.  But most convicted had 
committed no crime. The preceding rally drew roughly 80,000 
people and some very large number walked over to the Capitol 
in hopes that Mr Pence would do exactly the same as then-VP 
Mr Nixon did in January 1961 regarding dual elector slates.

*formed outside of longstanding House rules. She didn't even 
bring a rules change first, which she had the votes to ram 
through.
-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971