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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: Apple creepy ad which brazenly lies about Safari as if it's a
 "private" browser
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 20:46:31 -0700
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On 2024-07-19 20:28, Andrew wrote:
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/07/18/apple-issues-new-google-chrome-warning-for-14-billion-iphone-users/
> 
> "We all know relationships can be complicated, but few are quite as
> complicated as the one between Apple and Google. Cue Apple's creepy new
> attack ad on Google with a clear message for its 1.4 billion users:
>      *stop using Chrome on your iPhone*."
> 
> That's kind of funny marketing from a company with no R&D to speak of
> (where nobody spends less in R&D nor more in advertising than Apple does).
> 
> Given you can't even run the privacy oriented Tor browser on iOS, nor can
> you run Ungoogled Chromium, it's kind of funny how beautifully Apple ads
> lie to Apple's incredibly gullible (yet technically ignorant) customers.
> 
>   <https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/>
>   "Can I run Tor Browser on an iOS device? Apple requires all
>    browsers on iOS to use something called Webkit,
>    which prevents any iOS browser from having the same privacy
>    protections as Tor Browser."

And iPhones also allow you to use iCloud Private Relay, so...

'Tor is significantly better [than using a proxy], encrypting your 
traffic and routing it through multiple randomly selected relays to 
conceal your IP. But various Tor weaknesses - including slower speeds - 
and attack vectors have appeared over the years, and headlines like '25% 
of the Tor network’s exit capacity has been attacking Tor users' suggest 
you really shouldn't trust it entirely. We'd still rate it 5/10.

....

Private Relay is (mostly) Safari only, but it does a great job of hiding 
your IP, and as no one entity knows who you are or what you're doing, 
there's no way for anyone to connect your account to any internet 
action. As our rating is about privacy more than features, we have to 
edge Private Relay in front with a score of 8/10. (Yes, VPNs can protect 
all your devices, but if they're all vulnerable to logging, that's not a 
big privacy plus.)'



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