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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Le_pi=C3=A8ge_parfait_(the_perfect_trap)?= Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:02:27 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 17 Message-ID: <v7g1vj$3g3th$1@dont-email.me> References: <FER4K03RCuXsBiIlfVNSgR0vilQ@jntp> <9oTvw4-YSIPb1dubtdBwcc_MeX8@jntp> <v6ojjl$2fb4i$1@dont-email.me> <acceleration-20240711150210@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <4O9Y8U3gtfBKakbkPS0LmREorbI@jntp> <v6raq4$31qsh$1@dont-email.me> <CDCWsXoiHhSeIJy4YS7qQQhcHf8@jntp> <v6v2l5$3pri7$1@dont-email.me> <LS4aWQk6smoI8nPu6CSU96H5gYQ@jntp> <v710l9$7u9s$1@dont-email.me> <h2wfltG60Qx3kQd2ONdS3W4MJKs@jntp> <v71c86$a0te$1@dont-email.me> <fCidXYmBeggYm31OO1-5v64V0S8@jntp> <v736bn$mo0c$1@dont-email.me> <yX3K1wOobcIp1KzCuRuRL0Htcvg@jntp> <v73otr$ptku$1@dont-email.me> <ch2jfWaArdOfK3yzPPitxq9HA-A@jntp> <v75ner$1828i$3@dont-email.me> <Bd8mOA-8nINExuba8PnEg4CG9rI@jntp> <v76fvs$1d5jc$1@dont-email.me> <y2JkxT04PJ9pNpvNVb0oXaWVKOw@jntp> <v76i7r$1d5jc$3@dont-email.me> <lfp9aaFkr1mU2@mid.individual.net> <v78dem$1r5au$1@dont-email.me> <lfrrnfF22urU5@mid.individual.net> <v7bkir$2h9g3$1@dont-email.me> <SR-20240718200205@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <R0fmO.79375$ku13.42776@fx13.ams4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:02:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2909b1ca216a2f11cc9f02747cab45b6"; logging-data="3674033"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+MtP4+uRS3lpM8avthgEge" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:5Tw7OQlXserER2/H9Cc10mgINmA= Bytes: 2389 On 2024-07-18 20:41:13 +0000, Paul B. Andersen said: > Den 18.07.2024 21:02, skrev Stefan Ram: >> "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> wrote or quoted: >>> Both SR and GR "covers accelerated frames of reference". >> >> In special relativity, one can still talk about the proper time >> length of a section of an accelerated dude's world line from the >> perspective of a non-accelerated guy. > > The proper time is invariant, and doesn't depend on "perspective". However, the effor needed to determine it may depend. -- Mikko