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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Who here understands that the last paragraph is Necessarily true?
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 09:54:54 -0500
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On 7/20/2024 4:39 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-07-19 14:43:53 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 7/19/2024 4:02 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-16 18:26:12 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 7/16/2024 3:16 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-07-15 13:51:14 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/15/2024 3:37 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-07-15 03:41:24 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/14/2024 9:04 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/14/24 9:27 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non termination
>>>>>>>>>> of simulating termination analyzer HHH necessarily specifies
>>>>>>>>>> non-halting behavior or it would never need to be aborted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Excpet, as I have shown, it doesn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your problem is you keep on ILEGALLY changing the input in your 
>>>>>>>>> argument because you have misdefined what the input is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The input to HHH is ALL of the memory that it would be accessed 
>>>>>>>>> in a correct simulation of DDD, which includes all the codd of 
>>>>>>>>> HHH, and thus, if you change HHH you get a different input.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you want to try to claim the input is just the bytes of the 
>>>>>>>>> function DDD proper then you are just admitting that you are 
>>>>>>>>> nothing more than a lying idiot that doesn't understand the 
>>>>>>>>> problem,
>>>>>>>> Turing machines only operate on finite strings they do
>>>>>>>> not operate on other Turing machines *dumbo*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's right. But the finite string can be a description of a 
>>>>>>> Turing machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No that is wrong. The finite string must encode a Turing machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> That you agree does not mean that it is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your ignorance that a Turing machine cannot take its own
>>>> executing self as an input is no rebuttal what-so-ever.
>>>
>>> You should not assume that everyone is as stupid as you.
>>>
>>
>> That all rebuttals to my work have one fatal flaw or
>> another is beyond the comprehension of my reviewers
>> provides zero evidence that these rebuttals are not flawed.
> 
> You can claim that the indications of flaws of your "work" are flawed
> but that does not remove the indicated flaws from your work.
> 

Every rebuttal of my work denies a tautology
proving that the rebuttal is incorrect because
all tautologies are necessarily true.

int main()
{
   DDD();
}

Calls HHH(DDD) that must abort the emulation of its input
or {HHH, emulated DDD and executed DDD} never stop running.

*The above is a Tautology*


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