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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Hypothetical possibilities
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On 7/20/2024 2:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 7/20/24 3:09 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 7/20/2024 2:00 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>> Op 20.jul.2024 om 17:28 schreef olcott:
>>>> void DDD()
>>>> {
>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> int main()
>>>> {
>>>>    DDD();
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> (a) Termination Analyzers / Partial Halt Deciders must halt
>>>> this is a design requirement.
>>>>
>>>> (b) Every simulating termination analyzer HHH either
>>>> aborts the simulation of its input or not.
>>>>
>>>> (c) Within the hypothetical case where HHH does not abort
>>>> the simulation of its input {HHH, emulated DDD and executed DDD}
>>>> never stop running.
>>>>
>>>> This violates the design requirement of (a) therefore HHH must
>>>> abort the simulation of its input.
>>>
>>> And when it aborts, the simulation is incorrect. When HHH aborts and 
>>> halts, it is not needed to abort its simulation, because it will halt 
>>> of its own.
>>
>> So you are trying to get away with saying that no HHH
>> ever needs to abort the simulation of its input and HHH
>> will stop running?
>>
> 
> It is the fact that HHH DOES abort its simulation that makes it not need 
> to. 

No stupid it is not a fact that every HHH that can possibly
exist aborts its simulation.

void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}

It *is* a fact that no DDD correctly simulated by any
pure function HHH ever reaches its own return instruction.

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