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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Langevin's paradox again Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 22:19:41 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: <v7h5r1$3mabh$2@dont-email.me> References: <Qjq15Muw8aIiGRVOKV0Bu2oT9_k@jntp> <v76e49$1cn1q$1@dont-email.me> <xLBGlqr9FmVi45Mlcw6nJbdFqqM@jntp> <v76hh2$1d5jc$2@dont-email.me> <MINhbylBZhXuFEEVBuuOVNQAhME@jntp> <v78vh4$1u5pb$2@dont-email.me> <KgsNxvPyqt-0B8k9AVRrfDcva1k@jntp> <v7bqlv$2ie0l$1@dont-email.me> <FztOOPctCcCwS8JArTdOkyGfYyE@jntp> <669acc1f$3$8225$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <tWSqEjfxX9QQDg-63SH9iJ-NA5k@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 22:14:25 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="69e2fa5bc9449a59d37de3107cbf2a04"; logging-data="3877233"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/h/ebRCxYS4xG9qGrrwX01" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:LtV0Ja7oUs18efYuCeo1c6DZoZA= In-Reply-To: <tWSqEjfxX9QQDg-63SH9iJ-NA5k@jntp> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3033 Den 19.07.2024 22:51, skrev Richard Hachel: > Le 19/07/2024 à 22:27, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) a écrit : >> >> Some relativistic storage rings can be operated in single partcle mode. >> And it is possible, easy in fact, >> to detect each passing of the particle. >> So yo can just read your (electronic) stopwatch >> to measure the once-round the ring time, >> >> Jan > > > Paul thinks I'm telling him that when the proton makes one revolution, > in fact, it makes 6947 revolutions. This is absurd. > No one has ever said such stupidity. Every time you repeat this lie, I will have to remind you: | Den 27.03.2024 07:23, skrev Richard Hachel: |> Le 26/03/2024 à 21:45, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit : |>> |>> You are claiming that the protons are going around the ≈ 27 km ring |>> ≈ 78 million times per second. |>> The real value is ≈ 11.25 thousand times per second. |> |> CERN physicists are doing their job. |> We have accustomed them to working at classic relativistic speed. |> So it makes sense that they find the speed they expect. |> I tell them that the proton rotates 78 million times per second, You are saying that when the physicists who are operating the LHC know that a proton has gone around the circuit once, it has really gone around the circuit 78000000/11250 = 6933 times. You were right when you said: "No one in their right mind has ever said that." You were obviously not in your right mind when you claim that the physicists who are operating the LHC don't know how many times the protons are going around the ring per second. -- Paul https://paulba.no/