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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: There's a little bit of blame to spread around...
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 16:35:12 -0700
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On 2024-07-21 16:23, Mark Jackson wrote:
> On 7/21/2024 7:09 PM, Alan wrote:
>> ...but this one is mostly on Verstappen.
>>
>> Braking as late as that, he was never going to make it stick.
>>
>> This overhead does show Hamilton made a very early turn-in:
>>
>> <https://x.com/hammertimev/status/1815070122312147356>
> 
> The stewards, while noting that Hamilton "could have done more to avoid
> the collision," had this to say about that turn-in:
> 
> "The driver of Car 44 stated that he was simply following his
> normal racing line (which was confirmed by examination of
> video and telemetry evidence of previous laps)."

I looked at that part of it too, and it as a pretty early apex he was 
aimed for before Verstappen got in the way. Looking at other laps from 
his in-car camera, his normal apex was much further around the corner.



> 
>> But the Verstappen was divebombing. Plain and simple.
> 
> Agreed.  I was surprised Max did not draw a penalty.
> 
>> What's ironic is that if Hamilton had really understood how late 
>> Verstappen started his braking, he could have just stayed out of the
>> way and he'd have stayed ahead of Verstappen anyway.
> 
> It does not appear to me that Hamilton could have stayed out of the way 
> without going off himself.

Will have to disagree on that part, but it still should have been a 
penalty to Verstappen. We agree on that.