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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is Correctly rejected as non-halting V2
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:57:38 +0300
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On 2024-07-21 13:34:40 +0000, olcott said:

> On 7/21/2024 4:34 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-07-20 13:11:03 +0000, olcott said:
>> 
>>> On 7/20/2024 3:21 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-07-19 14:08:24 +0000, olcott said:
>>>> 
>>>>> When we use your incorrect reasoning we would conclude
>>>>> that Infinite_Loop() is not an infinite loop because it
>>>>> only repeats until aborted and is aborted.
>>>> 
>>>> You and your HHH can reason or at least conclude correctly about
>>>> Infinite_Loop but not about DDD. Possibly because it prefers to
>>>> say "no", which is correct about Infinte_loop but not about DDD.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Because this is true I don't understand how you are not simply lying*
>>> int main
>>> {
>>>    DDD();
>>> }
>>> 
>>> Calls HHH(DDD) that must abort the emulation of its input
>>> or {HHH, emulated DDD and executed DDD} never stop running.
>> 
>> You are the lying one.
>> 
>> If HHH(DDD) abrots its simulation and returns true it is correct as a
>> halt decider for DDD really halts.
>> 
> 
> (b) We know that a decider is not allowed to report on the behavior
> computation that itself is contained within.

No, we don't. There is no such prohibition.

-- 
Mikko