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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Antonio Marques <no_email@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: [So help me God] -- must be in Subjunctive (mood) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 12:27:23 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <v7lj7b$l5b3$1@dont-email.me> References: <v7khdf$fidq$1@dont-email.me> <lg6i73Flsv6U1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 14:27:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="329ac72f7265d02a1678cc4c9ed8cd36"; logging-data="693603"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/f2WwfOrhSzXiXmNoWvU/LRzOuSYa1x6fTtsCCNr/atQ==" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MJKdD7QfVoum4HQEZrU8rCYt+QA= sha1:lIeBzGl0wTJWt/NPfgqUctoZaEE= Bytes: 1677 John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > On 22/07/2024 03:50, HenHanna wrote: >> I do... (reminds me...) that >> >> [So help me God] -- must be in Subjunctive (mood) >> >> >> there must be other common phrases that are subtle like that. > > Imperative mood, surely. > It's subjunctive in portuguese - assim Deus me ajude - expressing a wish/conditional, not a command. We (pt) do use the subjunctive as an imperative for other persons than etymological 2nd, but I don't think this (eng) is such a case. Not because it's God. 'So the weather allow' wouldn't be a command either.