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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 16:39:02 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <v7m1v6$6nou$1@solani.org> References: <v7g5qf$3gjh2$4@dont-email.me> <v7hga4$3oaep$1@dont-email.me> <645882704.743219657.314271.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org> <v7hqen$27l4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v7ht8j$4fd0$1@solani.org> <v7i628$2ehn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v7illm$5nqk$1@solani.org> <v7j55h$rsl$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v7l1nt$i54u$1@dont-email.me> <v7lkvc$2fv8$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0oom9vh9nzp2y007@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v7lqpr$1qje$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 16:39:02 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="220958"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:OM95esuNiuEpWafba3AoKeQ5UfA= sha1:H1XUdRUR+zvqFmRS1nrnrDsbeS8= X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwDAEBMCVgn90HCT2H6F3NBefgNPB5do5dVGYEMqsoTUrG5jqt2oYdj99qpphWdc1j/VNkeF+8gNXmxVy Bytes: 4752 Lines: 69 Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote: > badgolferman wrote on Mon, 22 Jul 2024 14:28:00 -0000 (UTC) : > >>> However, I also note that AirTags are NOT an iPhone feature; so we're >>> still waiting for even a single iPhone feature that leapfrogged that >>> of Android. >> >> AirTags are a hardware function of the iPhone feature FindMy. It is >> because of FindMy that AirTags have become the standard among trackers. >> As the document I provided shows, Apple's (iPhone) FindMy network is >> far more robust than the Android Find My Device network for now. >> Undoubtedly Google will get it sorted out at some time. >> >> This is sort of a double-edged advantage though. Trackers are >> considered anathema to those who value privacy. For iPhones to have an >> advantage in something which devalues privacy is somewhat ironic. > > Hi badgolferman, > > The discussion below contains technical and factual and logically sensible > nuance that an adult should be able to easily comprehend. > > I will never disagree with a logically sensible statement, where I grant > you that Apple's marketing "leapfrogged" Tile's tags by a million miles. > > Let's accept that as a fact so we don't need to belabor the obvious. > > Now you assert that the AirTags are an iPhone technology, much as you would > then have to assert that Tiles are an Android technology - which is false. > > However... even those Tiles aren't Android tech any more than AirTags are > iPhone tech, it doesn't matter to my fundamental observation that Apple is > five to ten years behind Android technology (due to lack of R&D spending). > > Since you're an intelligent adult, you must understand my point that if > AirTags are Apple iPhone technology then Tiles are Android phone technology > - but now comes the nuance that adults are supposed to be able to > comprehend. > > Let's say you're right: > a. Let's say that AirTags are Apple iPhone technology > b. And let's say that Tiles are Android phone technology > > Even if we stretch the "facts" to that (absurd by the way) level, > that still means that out of every Apple poster on this newsgroup, > you are the only one who found even a *single* iPhone technology that Apple > leapfrogged Android phones on. > > One item in ten years? > > If we grant you Tiles/Airtags as Android/iPhone technology (which is > absurd, but I'm willing to grant it as it makes no difference to the main > point...)... > > Even if we accept AirTags a priori, that means in the past ten years, Apple > has "leapfrogged" Android in only a single technology (instead of zero). > > Do you understand that this still makes my point for me? > > Unless people can find more than one technology that Apple has leapfrogged > Android technology in they past ten years, then my statement will be true: > > *Due to lack of R&D spending, iPhones are 5 to 10 years behind Android* > Notwithstanding the actual hardware, my point was the FindMy network and technology behind its use is what Apple has done better than Android. Since I really don’t know much else about Android that was the one thing I thought of when you issued your challenge.