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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.mobile.ipad Subject: Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 12:24:39 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 86 Message-ID: <v7mbln$nu8k$4@dont-email.me> References: <v7g5qf$3gjh2$4@dont-email.me> <v7hga4$3oaep$1@dont-email.me> <645882704.743219657.314271.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org> <v7hqen$27l4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <610072942.743220419.056979.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org> <v7i6bd$8bo$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v7j4fn$42jt$2@dont-email.me> <v7j5lk$1r14$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v7k49d$3vh3$3@dont-email.me> <v7kg6r$27il$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v7kgbl$fe8s$2@dont-email.me> <v7lrbd$m3vd$1@dont-email.me> <v7lsib$26s5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v7mb77$p2gh$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 21:24:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="06b200e89d114aaed6d5217b54c6ad38"; logging-data="784660"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+m5rL7jkg+5hzdsLBN2SKNLGdApFGbz/s=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8sG28fegcv3GVapSttUj5j9x38o= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: <v7mb77$p2gh$4@dont-email.me> Bytes: 5048 On 2024-07-22 12:16, -hh wrote: > On 7/22/24 11:06 AM, Andrew wrote: >> -hh wrote on Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:46:05 -0400 : >> >>> nds more on R&D than all but three companies. >>> >>> Plus Apple clearly does a lot of "Make or Buy" business assessments to >>> decide on where to prioritize their R&D investments. This leads us back >>> to his belief that no one company can be successful unless they >>> personally invent and make every last component totally in-house, which >>> is totally absurd and followed by literally no one. Likewise, his >>> apparent belief (also quite absurd) that every S&T project is always and >>> immediately fully successful as originally envisioned. >>> >>> Reality for both is quite distant from these beliefs, which is why even >>> his attempts to worship Android fall far short of this vision, as >>> illustrated by how Android handset manufacturers *also* have had to >>> outsource their modem chips to Qualcomm rather than to invent & fab them >>> in-house like he's trying to ask of Apple. Yeah, hypocritical. >>> >>> As I said, it shows that "Andrew" has never professionally worked on any >>> technological development efforts ... except perhaps as their janitor. >> >> An adult would prove me wrong - but a child acts like hh just did above. >> >> The fact remains that nobody in high tech spends less than Apple on >> R&D as >> a percentage of revenue ... > > Oh, look, "as a percentage of revenue..": its a goalpost move attempt! > > >> - and - plenty of phone companies spend more even >> though none are anywhere near the size of Apple in terms of total >> revenue. > > And of course you can clearly explain why that's relevant...right? > > >> Alan Baker cannot dispute that fact because it's a well known fact. > > Really? I was under the impression that the Android fanboys keep on > harping that the total worldwide Android sales is bigger than Apple. > Better go check your revenue numbers again... > > ...and especially not get them confused with net profits. > > > >> It's that lack of R&D that explains why Apple is five to ten years behind >> Android technology - which - if you want to disprove - all you have to do >> is list what iPhone technology is better than similar Android technology. > > *Yawn* others have already done so > >> >> HINT: It's just as absurd to claim that AirTags are exclusively iPhone >> technology as it would be to claim that Tiles are exclusively Android. > > Because that's invalid because Tile isn't exclusively Android. > > > >> Name a *single* exclusively iPhone technology that Apple has innovated >> upon >> in the past five or ten years that is better than the equivalent Android. >> >> Hint: You can't. > > Well, there is Apple Vision Pro's EyeSight Feature: its innovative > enough that Meta has tried to file a patent clone/derivative of it: > > > <https://www.patentlyapple.com/2024/07/monkey-see-monkey-do-meta-files-patent-designed-to-mimic-apple-vision-pros-eyesight-feature.html> > >> >> Why not? >> Because Apple doesn't invest in R&D; Apple is all about marketing. >> >> Prove me wrong. >> That's what an adult would do. > > Already done, repeatedly. Now "adult up" and accept being wrong. Good luck with that.